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Hi a couple of hours ago we left out four bags for my friend to pick up . I put them near where the bins are by the newspaper collection bit is and my daughter told me afterwards that someone had been filming us on their phone . The bags have now been collected , but I'm worried that I may get reported for dumping rubbish.

There's nothing there to suggest we dumped anything now but we have been taped .

What should I do?

I don't want to get a fine , we only put it out there as not valuable and I didn't want to wake everyone up by taking bags out , the doorbell ringing etc etc.
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Just wait and if any one complains tell them the reason. Don't panic.
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Re: Videoed whilst leaving out stuff for my friend to collect!!

Do you think I should take a photo tomorrow to prove it was collected?
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Re: Videoed whilst leaving out stuff for my friend to collect!!

Your neighbour is in the wrong. Her filming of you was disproportionate and possibly illegal.

There are dozens of legitimate reasons you might be putting stuff on the street temporarily.

If she does it again tell her to stop filming you, and if she thinks you are doing anything illegal to call the police.
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Re: Videoed whilst leaving out stuff for my friend to collect!!

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Your neighbour is in the wrong. Her filming of you was disproportionate and possibly illegal.

There are dozens of legitimate reasons you might be putting stuff on the street temporarily.

If she does it again tell her to stop filming you, and if she thinks you are doing anything illegal to call the police.
I'd tend to disagreee. This seems to have happened towards midnight, which makes the assumption of illegal depositing fairly reasonable. Since the filming appears to have been targeted, intended to create proof, it was probably OK at that time.

However, since the bags have been removed it's clear that the assumption was wrong, thus OP can demand for the pictures to be deleted, and certainly no reason for OP to worry.

Personally, I'd talk to the neighbor even if I didn't care about the deleting of the pictures. Explain the situation, perhaps instill a bit of a bad conscience, and try to drag the filmer onto your side - somebody with excessive time on their hands may be a good "watchdog" for your apartment when you're away, e.g. on holidays.
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Do you think I should take a photo tomorrow to prove it was collected?
You ought to ask the person videoing whether they also filmed your friend picking the bags up.
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Just wait and if any one complains tell them the reason. Don't panic.

No no no. The first thing people do is panic. You just ruined that with your timely post. Cool heads...




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Hi a couple of hours ago we left out four bags for my friend to pick up . I put them near where the bins are by the newspaper collection bit is and my daughter told me afterwards that someone had been filming us on their phone . The bags have now been collected , but I'm worried that I may get reported for dumping rubbish.

There's nothing there to suggest we dumped anything now but we have been taped .

What should I do?

I don't want to get a fine , we only put it out there as not valuable and I didn't want to wake everyone up by taking bags out , the doorbell ringing etc etc.
Hi. This is exactly why you should only dump rubbish in a place where nobody can see you, or at least make sure there is nobody there filming you when you do it!!! Never outside you own house.
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Hi. This is exactly why you should only dump rubbish in a place where nobody can see you, or at least make sure there is nobody there filming you when you do it!!! Never outside you own house.
Have you read and understood the post you quoted?

They weren't dumping rubbish.

..... and if you're advocating 'fly-tipping', then that is a serious offence.
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Have you read and understood the post you quoted?

They weren't dumping rubbish.

..... and if you're advocating 'fly-tipping', then that is a serious offence.
It might have been rubbish inside !!
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It might have been rubbish inside !!
A bit like your head ..... apparently.
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Hi. This is exactly why you should only dump rubbish in a place where nobody can see you, or at least make sure there is nobody there filming you when you do it!!! Never outside you own house.
haha.


I thought the rule is that you should also steal your neighbors' mail, screw it up and dispose of it in your 'illegal' rubbish. Make sure nothing with your address is in there. That way when they search it your neighbors get the fine.
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Re: Videoed whilst leaving out stuff for my friend to collect!!

To be fair, how did anyone know you were not dumping rubbish? Near our bins here, the amount of stuff being dumped illegally is rising, and some people are getting really fed up with this- and are beginning to take counter measures, like taking number plates or photos/video to report. Now I wouldn't myself- but I am beginning to understand why people who live near the bins do as they have to put up with this unsightly and smelly illegal dumping - and have to themselves pay for their rubbish to be taken away (we pay by weight here)...

So I am puzzled, why didn't you arrange for your friends to collect stuff from your flat at a time convenient to both. Easier no?

Having lived near a country lane in the UK which was used day in, night out- for all sorts of illegall rubbish dumping in every nook and cranny- be it bags of rubbish, old fridges and tvs, tyres, building rubble, old carpets and even once, waste from the local private clinic with all the patients' notes - I have no sympathy for illegal dumpers of any kind. And I won't even begin to tell you about illegal dumping all over the place in Sicily as we witnessed this year again!

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To be fair, how did anyone know you were not dumping rubbish? Near our bins here, the amount of stuff being dumped illegally is rising....

So I am puzzled, why didn't you arrange for your friends to collect stuff from your flat at a time convenient to both. Easier no?
Agreed, it does seem a bit strange. And if the bags contained stuff of some value to the friend, why put those bags near the rubbish area at collection time? Seems a bit unwise and risky.

I hate hearing myself sounding moralistic because I have faults like anyone else, but there is a sense of "I fear the OP doth protest too much". Like you, I may have a particular thing about rubbish collection practices because we have that problem at my block, where stuff is dumped illegally and then sits there for ages until someone takes responsibility for it.
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Old 12.07.2015, 19:06
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why put those bags near the rubbish area at collection time?
Wow! They collect rubbish where you live late Saturday night or early Sunday morning? Now that's diligence for you.
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Near our bins here, the amount of stuff being dumped illegally is rising
Let me guess... has the stupid trash bag tax recently been introduced in your area?
I'm sorry for you but these are just the nasty side effects of a system that creates wrong incentives.
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Re: Videoed whilst leaving out stuff for my friend to collect!!

This post got my attention, I had to do the math to compare to what we paid in Norway. The web-site of our old commune specifies the cost of each services.

For 282,00 CHF / year (bearing in mind that the NOK i weak right now), I had two 140 litre bins, one for garbage and one for paper. The garbage was collected once a week, paper once a month. No collection of organic waste, hence a major smell issue in the summer (and lots of rats in our neighbourhood). We used to have to walk to a plastic & glass station, now you have to collect plastic in special plastic bags (that you buy at the grocery store) and it's collected once a month. For glass you still have to walk/drive to your neighbourhood's glass collection station, just like in ZH.

Anything big, electrical or polluting has to be delivered at one of two main garbage collection sites, which you have to drive to (way out in the sticks) and where you pay according to the size of your vehicle. Open 08.00-16.00 Monday-Saturday, hence packed on Saturdays. No collection service, as we don't have a big car we had to rent a van if we had anything big to dispose of, and then a higher disposal fee.

Personally, I'm quite happy with the system here in ZH, it has made us more aware of how much waste we generate. We're now down to 1 35 l bag per week for a small family of 3. My only misgiving is having to "gift-wrap" the paper and cardboard recycling, but I've outsourced that chore to Better-Half so he can still say he's involved in housework.

To the OP, I would just wait and see if anything comes from that filming,;you've done nothing wrong, no point in getting upset. If anyone comes to you with the "incriminating" video, just say what it was all about. Personally I'd be cheeky enough to ask to see the video "just to check if I look good on it".
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Hi. This is exactly why you should only dump rubbish in a place where nobody can see you, or at least make sure there is nobody there filming you when you do it!!! Never outside you own house.
I think that I got some idea now where I should be dumping my rubbish - in the land of Sevirra
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The nosey old bat curtain twitcher is far better than any guard dog
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Maybe she saw the bags were gone and took the opportunity to dump 4 bags of rubbish knowing there was a fall guy to take the blame!
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