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Old 04.08.2015, 22:11
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Re: Which washing machine to choose ?

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Dryer - something to do with the air pump. Clothes just don't dry.
I prefer to use the "Secomat".
It's much more gentle to the clothes.
There's another thread at haus-forum, where someone with a five year old dryer has already spent 500 CHF on repairs and as the warranty has run out, wants to buy a new one, already.
A technician confirmed to him that 5 years is the expected lifetime of a dryer these days...
Great prospects...

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Washer - powder detergent dispenser got rattled out of place, leaving black marks on our whites!! So when the machine spins, we expect this to happen at some point again, and they already told us that because they don't have to replace the parts, the original 2 year warranty applies.
Ah, I'd want to dispense myself.
How does it know how much detergent is needed?

The less movable parts, the less can go wrong...
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Re: Which washing machine to choose ?

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For every bad story there's a good story.

15 years ago, when I went to live on my own, I bought a Miele washing machine at an auction in Antwerp for 250 euros. It was already 10 years old at that time.

Meanwhile I'm married with two kids. We brought our beloved Miele with us to Switzerland last year. It has never let us down so far.

All we did was have a Miele technician replace some moving parts 5 years ago (which costed us another 150 euro all together) when we started using it "intensively" when our first child was born. The last 5 years we have used that machine every other day for sure.

I think that machine will outlive me.
Just don't replace it ! They don't make them like they used to. I have been very unhappy with our ELECTROLUX appliances that were replaced about 3 ish years ago ( a dryer and a refrigerator) the dryer door came off it's hinges when I opened it recently and literally broke off. My landlord says it is my fault and I need to pay him 500 CHF, if i want a different dryer, as I said this one has been repaired 6x since we have owned it and I said I want a different one. I also researched Electrolux and found out they have outsourced their plants so often that quality get's left behind in the process. Although assembled in Europe the parts are manufactured in China. The dryer door was simply to heavy for the hinges and the suction of the door that was already hard to open. Our refrigerator has parts that are not standing the test of time. Cracked freezer doors due the thinness of the plastic, parts that simply break and the shelves cave if you put too heavy items on them. Our previous Milele dishwasher was not great, but our current one works great. I was told they have different standards. Their our certain types that are recommended for rentals as opposed to someone buying for their own home. So, do your research !
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Re: Which washing machine to choose ?

When we bought our flat, it came with V-ZUG washer and drier supplied by the developer.

Neither were able to work together - if both machines were running it'd blow the fuses.

Then over the years the drier began to fail many times. After I'd spent about a grand in callouts and repairs, the last incident required a total replacement of the machine - and V-ZUG are expensive. Because of Swiss Quality

So I bought a Bosch replacement machine from Germany - I like Bosch stuff and I know others who do too - I had it delivered to my door - and it cost less than half the V-ZUG was going to cost.

It runs much cooler than the V-ZUG ever did, uses far less power (and will now run together with the washer without overloading the electrical system of a new-build flat !) and doesn't fill the room with steam like the old one did. No more mould on the ceiling thank goodness...!
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Re: Which washing machine to choose ?

As an ex Miele technician in Australia, I would highly recommend their product, but please read the operating instructions thoroughly as many call outs were due to customer error.
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