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Still, it is for a judge to decide whether the rules are disproportionate and binding.
But they have, at least when it comes to showering at night.
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Old 25.08.2015, 04:20
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But they have, at least when it comes to showering at night.

NO there is no such law or rule


There is


https://www.stadt-zuerich.ch/pd/de/i...r/111124a.html


The flushing of the toilet and taking a shower is allowed at night. The house Administration may of course make it clear that a full bath is not allowed after 22.00
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Old 25.08.2015, 09:24
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I believe this is it. From what I can tell, there is no "strict rule" about not flushing the toilet (or even having a shower) after 10pm, let alone a law. But much of it falls under the general responsibility of not annoying the neighbours.

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In my case, however, it seems many in our apartment building don't really care about after 10pm in a way. The neighbour below did come upstairs once and chide us (me) about knocking my razor against the bathroom vanity basin (a known way to get hairs out of the blades) - apparently the noise is very clear downstairs and wakes him up. So I don't do that anymore (knock the razor, that is, I still shave). And I'm not the only one who uses the laundry after 9pm when it shouldn't be any more (at least according to a notice from the commune posted in the laundry).
The core issue is, reasonable/standard usage by a given person/family. E.g. an elderly couple can be expected to be much less noisy than a family with small children.

Using the toilet and taking a shower are necessary standard usages. Taking a full bath however is not necessary as taking a shower will achieve the same level of bodily hygiene, but a full bath can be much more noisy and will often take considerably longer so it would probably be ruled against. Same goes with knocking your razor against the basin (though I do that myself at times, luckily my neighbors never commented on that).

In our building the house rules forbid to use washing machine and dryer after 9pm or so. But the lady in the apartment immediately above the washing room says she doesn't hear them so the machines can be, and are, used beyond the stated limit without any problem.
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Old 25.08.2015, 12:07
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Re: The Swiss Rules you love to break

Well last night, the toilet backed up a bit. Ended up doing four full flushes of the toilet in succession.

It was after 22h00. I guess our neighbour downstairs doesn't care too much for this anymore, but I can guarantee it was done not to annoy him; on the contrary, it was done not to annoy us!
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Old 25.08.2015, 13:00
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Well last night, the toilet backed up a bit. Ended up doing four full flushes of the toilet in succession.

It was after 22h00. I guess our neighbour downstairs doesn't care too much for this anymore, but I can guarantee it was done not to annoy him; on the contrary, it was done not to annoy us!

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfP0RB1O1Lg so sorry in German only
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Sitting down in the train without asking "Is it free"
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Re: The Swiss Rules you love to break

I've been known to parked my car in front of the local post box to drop off a letter quickly, 1/2 minute tops. It's clearly not a marked parking spot but I was not obstructing traffic either. Each time the fingers come wagging my way and I just wag it right back at them and tell them to call the cops if they don't like it. I figure it's better than taking the disabled spot when all the others are full, something I see many people do without the assigned disabled parking permit.
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Old 26.08.2015, 03:51
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Re: The Swiss Rules you love to break

When in Switzerland, my laundry day according to the schedule in the basement is Friday, but I don't use it because I have a washer in my apartment.

I pay Billag, have a TV and multimedia-enabled computers with Internet connection, but I don't watch TV, only DVD / BlueRay. Not quite sure if that breaks any laws, though, but it sure violates lots of conventions.
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Old 26.08.2015, 09:03
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Whilst riding my bike to work this morning I jumped a red light at a completely empty crossing. Half a mile up the road a car drove by beeping with the driver waving his fist at me.
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Old 26.08.2015, 09:08
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Whilst riding my bike to work this morning I jumped a red light at a completely empty crossing. Half a mile up the road a car drove by beeping with the driver waving his fist at me.
When I'm back home or somewhere else outside CH I'm one of those very few people who're still waiting for the green light even at a completely empty crossing. Which, I noticed, raises some eyebrows and a few malicious smiles.
I think this is a counterexample though...


A Swiss rule I looove to break: keep some distance between me and the next person in a line as I hate to breath down the nape of someone's neck. They hate it or don't understand the idea, think I forgot to move on or something.

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Old 26.08.2015, 09:35
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I was told that if the bin is full, you put it adjacent to the bin.
Not a good idea, as you are "depositing rubbish in a random manner" and can be fined. Normally you can lift the lid and put the rubbish sack on top of the rest, leaving the lid half open.

Usually today you have paid for the rubbish collection by means of the coloured sack or the vignette sticker. So putting it in a neighbouring bin is more acceptable than leaving it on the ground, where the neighbours cats and local foxes tear it open, and then somebody has to clear up the mess.
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Old 26.08.2015, 10:10
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Not a good idea, as you are "depositing rubbish in a random manner" and can be fined. Normally you can lift the lid and put the rubbish sack on top of the rest, leaving the lid half open.

Usually today you have paid for the rubbish collection by means of the coloured sack or the vignette sticker. So putting it in a neighbouring bin is more acceptable than leaving it on the ground, where the neighbours cats and local foxes tear it open, and then somebody has to clear up the mess.
So in true CH fashion, either choice is a potential fine inducing decision.
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Old 26.08.2015, 10:26
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So in true CH fashion, either choice is a potential fine inducing decision.
I cannot see how a fine can be issued for putting a correctly labelled sack in the wrong bin! At least once per week the bin is emptied, the OP can then put his rubbish in the bin on that evening. It is simply a question of organising one's life.

As I do not fill a 33 liter sack within one week, I buy black plastic sacks and then store them when they get smelly on the balcony. When I have collected 2 or 3, I put them into one chargeable sack and dump them in the bin. Many, many people do not have the luxury of a bin, and must keep their filled sacks until the morning of the day of the collection, when they may be placed at the side of the road. Fines can be issued for sacks put out the day or evening before the collection day (see other Forum posts).
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Not a good idea, as you are "depositing rubbish in a random manner" and can be fined. Normally you can lift the lid and put the rubbish sack on top of the rest, leaving the lid half open.
Not really.

In a smaller house people don't have big metallic bins on wheels, instead they deposit(drop) the bags at the designed spots, that's perfectly fine. By depositing the bags by the bin you do essentially the same.
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Not a good idea, as you are "depositing rubbish in a random manner" and can be fined. Normally you can lift the lid and put the rubbish sack on top of the rest, leaving the lid half open.

Usually today you have paid for the rubbish collection by means of the coloured sack or the vignette sticker. So putting it in a neighbouring bin is more acceptable than leaving it on the ground, where the neighbours cats and local foxes tear it open, and then somebody has to clear up the mess.
I had a Norwegian colleague one time who did this.
The neighbour reported him, the police came to our office, took him away and fingerprinted him.
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Not really.

In a smaller house people don't have big metallic bins on wheels, instead they deposit(drop) the bags at the designed spots, that's perfectly fine. By depositing the bags by the bin you do essentially the same.
it depends. our bin has to get wheeled some distance away to be collected, so leaving it next to the bin means whoever does that has to put it in the bin. or, as was the case last week, just left it there.

the correct swiss way is to make sure you put sacks into the containers early and often to make sure you get there while there is room, or keep it until the bin is emptied
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We're going to have new born baby soon. We will be banned from CH surely...
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We're going to have new born baby soon. We will be banned from CH surely...
Aww, congrats

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the correct swiss way is to make sure you put sacks into the containers early
and get up at the bloody crack of dawn?
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Just no joy around here- we keep trying, parties till 3am with lots of music, washing out on a Sunday, mowing the lawn after 8pm - and nobody bats an eyelid ... this is sooo boring, I just want to be bad, and they won't let me
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...and all this in Neuchâtel? Ha, quelle drôle!
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