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29.08.2015, 10:17
| | Rigi's trains for Chinese tourists
Rigi has come up with the idea of lumping all Asian tourists together in separate trains, the reason being that the Chinese tourists were allegedly disturbing the other visitors. They aren't bared from using the regular trains though. http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-news-f...where-34085270 | The following 2 users would like to thank for this useful post: | | 
29.08.2015, 10:35
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| | Re: Rigi's trains for Chinese tourists
Another idea for Jeremy Corbin??
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29.08.2015, 10:37
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29.08.2015, 10:38
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What I noticed with the eastern europeans is that the care factor is way lower than here. Taking my chair at the skating ring when there are no others within reach without asking and so on and so forth. Just no real idea of swiss cuture and frankly acceptable behaviour. (very subjective too yes?)
The chinese are different. They wont do that. No way. I lived there for a few years and have a basic, basic idea of how they tick. But have no illusions. To understand asian culture takes a life time. Assuming that is they let you in. Which is very unlikely. I was lucky. My partner got in in Vietnam. She had locals as friends who were even given permission to visit Australia for our wedding. Yes, all Vietnamese need to be sponsored by the ex-pat so that they return. Then they need the Ok from the communist government. Seeing the look on their faces when they were feeding the Kookaburras (famous aussie bird) was magic. Look up "cottage point inn sydney" and you will see my point. Awsome place for us to start our honeymoon.
Are you with me? These people are from a communist country. You missbehave and you get your ass kicked to mars. Its brutal and sick. The swiss on the other hand come from almost the opposite side of the spectrum. Too much for them. Chinese getting close to them etc. I mean close as in always pushing past you when they can wait a few seconds and achieve the same result.
Thats it.
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29.08.2015, 11:26
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Who goes to Rigi for "peace and relaxation"? | The following 3 users would like to thank for this useful post: | | 
29.08.2015, 11:53
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| | Re: Rigi's trains for Chinese tourists | Quote: |  | | | Who goes to Rigi for "peace and relaxation"?  | | | | | Recommended: full moon winter snowshoe hike up Rigi to watch sunrise. Then have a coffee and get out of there before the tourists arrive...
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29.08.2015, 11:57
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Didn't the Germans begin this way with the Jews ?(upon advice from the Swiss)
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29.08.2015, 13:24
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The chinese are different. They wont do that. No way.
| | | | | Interesting because being an Indian i was used to 'always pushing past you when they can wait a few seconds and achieve the same result' behaviour. But even i feel that SOME Chinese tourists take it to the limit.
Once we were riding the final train to Jungfraujoch with my relatives who came over (one of them was pregnant 5-6 months at that time), at the first view point we got down to check out. When we got back, all our seats are now taken by Chinese tourists. They looked at the pregnant woman but didnot offer a seat. Finally an european tourist gave her the seat.
So we thought lets wait till next view point and take back our seats, then to our surprise every tourist in their group got down except one lady saving the seats.
This is no way generalizing chinese as i do have some good asian friends. But if you have Chinese tourists on the train then hold on to you seats | The following 3 users would like to thank kkrish for this useful post: | | 
29.08.2015, 15:02
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For Pete's sake, the regular trains are still available for all tourists. This is just a special service for GROUPS, particulary Asian. The trains have been especially designed for Asian tourists. It's an option to maximize comfort.
I vote we take a special investigative team made of English Forum posters and ride on the Asian-geared funicular up to the Rigi Staffel undercover and report our findings. I'll even introduce you to the most famous cheese maker on the Rigi.
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29.08.2015, 15:38
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When we took the train from Williams to the Grand Canyon a few years back- we were the only non USA citizens in our carriage which was reserved for USA only- our cousin in AZ had organised the tickets via her travel agent for us under her name.
We were made very very welcome and had a ball- it was 4th of July and a trip for our 25th wedding anniv (actually a looong time ago - 45 next year).
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29.08.2015, 16:56
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| | Re: Rigi's trains for Chinese tourists | Quote: | |  | | | What I noticed with the eastern europeans is that the care factor is way lower than here. Taking my chair at the skating ring when there are no others within reach without asking and so on and so forth. Just no real idea of swiss cuture and frankly acceptable behaviour. (very subjective too yes?)
Other blah blah blah... | | | | | Are your sweeping generalisations about all eastern europeans really based on someone taking your chair at the ice rink?
Awesome.
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29.08.2015, 17:40
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| | Re: Rigi's trains for Chinese tourists | Quote: |  | | | When we took the train from Williams to the Grand Canyon a few years back- we were the only non USA citizens in our carriage which was reserved for USA only- our cousin in AZ had organised the tickets via her travel agent for us under her name.
We were made very very welcome and had a ball- it was 4th of July and a trip for our 25th wedding anniv (actually a looong time ago - 45 next year). | | | | | You may want to read this. It went viral a few days ago in SR. The title sums it up pretty well.
Once again der Blick knows no shame with their narrow and bigoted journalism.
Some of the LM comments are very telling | The following 2 users would like to thank Linnéa UZH for this useful post: | | This user groans at Linnéa UZH for this post: | | 
29.08.2015, 18:37
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Yes I am a bigot groan me all you want.
Wile visiting Grand Canyon ,one need to get a pass from the national park authority . I had to waiting in line for over 20 extra minutes at the counter was a women from a chinese buss tour yelling at the park official .She forgotten her free pass in her hotel .She thought it is her right to go into the park for free.
Visiting Niagara falls 2 weeks back we had to fight our way into the tourist center ,several busload of Chinese where standing in and around the door entry
In Calgary, at one super market I moved a shopping cart ,which was in the middle of the meat aisle . The chinese women started to scream at me.
I could go on and one 
Yes I am not a big fan of the Chinese .Beside all this there lousy driver (Traffic)
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30.08.2015, 01:47
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Whatever you say, the merchants love them. I can't forget the long (Chinese) queue at boutique Cartier in the Galeries Lafayette... 
I found them refreshingly enthusiastic...and genuine.
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30.08.2015, 09:27
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I find it ridiculous to have separate trains for Chinese tourists.
There should also be separate trains for:
- English people, like Americans but no Australians
- South-Europeans because they are so noisy
- good folk, like me
- Germans, just to annoy them that they have to travel in separate trains
- etc
Issue is a bit how you would handle this all with one rail track.
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another example of Swiss disciminatory practices. | Quote: | |  | | | Rigi has come up with the idea of lumping all Asian tourists together in separate trains, the reason being that the Chinese tourists were allegedly disturbing the other visitors. They aren't bared from using the regular trains though. http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-news-f...where-34085270 | | | | | | This user groans at omtatsat for this post: | | 
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tourists at a tourist attraction???? we cannot have that! | This user would like to thank OSueco for this useful post: | | 
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do you mean the trains are slanted like their eyes? | Quote: | |  | | | For Pete's sake, the regular trains are still available for all tourists. This is just a special service for GROUPS, particulary Asian. The trains have been especially designed for Asian tourists. It's an option to maximize comfort.
I vote we take a special investigative team made of English Forum posters and ride on the Asian-geared funicular up to the Rigi Staffel undercover and report our findings. I'll even introduce you to the most famous cheese maker on the Rigi. | | | | | | This user would like to thank omtatsat for this useful post: | | This user groans at omtatsat for this post: | | 
30.08.2015, 11:45
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| | Re: Rigi's trains for Chinese tourists | Quote: | |  | | | do you mean the trains are slanted like their eyes? | | | | | You're really desperate for attention, aren't you? Is it a childhood thing?
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30.08.2015, 17:13
| | Re: Rigi's trains for Chinese tourists | Quote: | |  | | | I find it ridiculous to have separate trains for Chinese tourists.
There should also be separate trains for:
- English people, like Americans but no Australians
- South-Europeans because they are so noisy
- good folk, like me
- Germans, just to annoy them that they have to travel in separate trains
- etc
Issue is a bit how you would handle this all with one rail track. | | | | | And women. You are forgetting women.
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