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Change UK plug of ipod dock...

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I'm after some help... I want to change the plug on my ipod dock to swiss. I've changed a few others but this one is bigger, I'm wondering if there is a power transformer inside or something... can anyone offer advice?

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Re: Change UK plug of ipod dock...

It doesn't looks like the type of plug you can unscrew.

So just cut it off, get a pair of wire strippers or just use a knife to strip them down.

You can buy Swiss plugs very cheaply in Migros DIY stores. Wire it up and off you go.

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Not sure why it's bigger....
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Re: Change UK plug of ipod dock...

Cool, cheers, so there's nothing special in there, just the 3 usual pins?
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Cool, cheers, so there's nothing special in there, just the 3 usual pins?
Actually, I have no idea...sorry
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Re: Change UK plug of ipod dock...

I managed to prise it open and theres a circuit board in there....transformer maybe, but I don't know electronics
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Re: Change UK plug of ipod dock...

It's likely to be more than just a plug (it'll no doubt say something on it somewhere) else ... it would have just been a plug. Put an adapter on it.
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Re: Change UK plug of ipod dock...

Looks like a transformer... just use an adaptor.
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Re: Change UK plug of ipod dock...

IMPORTANT, now that you have taken it apart it will be too dangerous to use it again! It is now unsafe, 230 volts will be exposed, throw it away!

You should have used an adapter. Now you must buy a new power adapter (with cable) for the Ipod docker from an approved shop, Apple, Interdiscount, Fust, Migros electronic etc.

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It doesn't looks like the type of plug you can unscrew.

So just cut it off, get a pair of wire strippers or just use a knife to strip them down.

You can buy Swiss plugs very cheaply in Migros DIY stores. Wire it up and off you go.

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Not sure why it's bigger....
If you don't know what you are talking about its best to keep quiet.
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IMPORTANT, now that you have taken it apart it will be too dangerous to use it again! It is now unsafe, 230 volts will be exposed, throw it away!

You should have used an adapter. Now you must buy a new power adapter (with cable) for the Ipod docker from an approved shop, Apple, Interdiscount, Fust, Migros electronic etc.
Alarmist nonsense. If it's come apart easily enough and you haven't disconnected anything it should be perfectly safe as long as it goes back together securely.
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Alarmist nonsense. If it's come apart easily enough and you haven't disconnected anything it should be perfectly safe as long as it goes back together securely.
How do you know? How can you be sure no child is going to unplug it with damp hands? Please stop displaying your absolute ignorance of safety aspects in consumer electrics. Have you ever achieved a certificate for new equipment? I have, in Karlsruhe Germany, so I do know what I am being "alarmist" about!

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Re: Change UK plug of ipod dock...

The plug looks like a transformer for sure.

What I've done, in the past, is to use a UK trailing plug or extension plug bank, and just changed the plug on the end of the cable to a Swiss one ...... but this, of course, would have required a bit of foresight and purchase, prior to moving. You could possible order from Amazon UK or similar.


The weight of a UK transformer, usually means that using a UK to Swiss adapter plug in a Swiss socket, could be unstable (wobbly).

Your best solution (as suggested) is to pick up a Swiss iPod charging plug (and cable, if required) from an Apple reseller (or generic brand) here - often cheaper, than from Apple, themselves.


NB - the plug should have a label on, giving voltage in and voltage out .... 220-240V in, and probably 5V out ..... to determine for sure, that it's a transformer.
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Re: Change UK plug of ipod dock...

Agreed, replacing the power unit is the best solution. Buy one in Switzerland, as there are many poor quality devices offered on the Internet, that have never been tested in a European laboratory. Look for the CE symbol on the plastic!

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Re: Change UK plug of ipod dock...

So the existing plug is of course a step down transformer and AC-DC converter, most likely not designed to be opened and probably now at least cosmetically damaged ..

I would replace it with an off the shelf cheap adapter... To make sure you get the correct replacement, look at the tiny print on it for the 3 key things. Voltage, Power (watts or amps or milli amps) and polarity.

Voltage is likely to be 3.6 -12v - Anything you buy in interdiscount will cover the range.
Power - More is good, your device will draw the power it needs, its ok if the new one says higher power.
Polarity - If your connector is the little "tube" type, this tells you if inside or outside of the tube is +/- polarity (virtually always the same)




* if it opened up easily and you didn't mess with it, personally i wouldn't panic about still using it meantime with a UK-CH adapter. But i used to be an electrician so it's ok for me to get shocks.
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Re: Change UK plug of ipod dock...

As a certified EF legend I know exactly what you need to do.

Cut off the old useless plug/adapter and put a high quality Swiss one on instead which, as with all things made in Switzerland and/or for the Swiss market is vastly superior - don't bother with the earth wire because earthing something is for wimps.

Then plug in your iPod dock - at this point there may be a teeny tiny risk that the iPod dock will begin smoking - and perhaps the odd spark. What you have done is actually found the manufacturers hidden "DISCO" settings. The downside of this is that you're best advised to only use the remote control to control the unit.

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Actually, I have no idea...sorry
Tip: Don't give electrical advice when you clearly have no clue. If they'd followed your advice through and managed wire it up(*), they'd have had a 240 volt live lump of bare metal on the connector end.


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How do you know? How can you be sure no child is going to unplug it with damp hands?
And what part of 'securely' did you fail to understand?

It's you who's making assumptions that it can't be safely reassembled; sure, if he's had to break it apart to open it then, given his obvious lack of knowledge, I'd completely agree with you, but if it's just easily been levered apart without damage to any clips or lugs it may be perfectly possible to safely reassemble. I'm not saying it will be, but your message that it must be thrown away forthwith regardless defies logic.

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Certification doesn't override common sense, you know.
Sometimes it can. A lot of practices are put in place because of real life experience by hundreds of experts. It's about risk reduction. As you said yourself; it might be safe, it might not.

Transformers these days shouldn't be easy to prise apart.
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And what part of 'securely' did you fail to understand?

It's you who's making assumptions that it can't be safely reassembled; sure, if he's had to break it apart to open it then, given his obvious lack of knowledge, I'd completely agree with you, but if it's just easily been levered apart without damage to any clips or lugs it may be perfectly possible to safely reassemble. I'm not saying it will be, but your message that it must be thrown away forthwith regardless defies logic.

Certification doesn't override common sense, you know.


Ace, I'm with Sbrinz on this one. The problem is that if someone isn't aware of what the potential issues with AC mains voltage are, then they generally aren't able to assess if they've got it back together in a safe manner. That the OP asked the question in the way they did at all indicates to me that he/she is not versed in the blackening arts of electrickery.
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Re: Change UK plug of ipod dock...

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It's too thin to have a step-down transformer. It's a switched-mode power supply but yes, it does have AC in and DC out.

It's also class II (double-insulated) so doesn't have an earth connection.

But yes, he should be able to get a replacement from Interdiscount etc or Amazon and your criteria (DC volts out, Power and DC connector polarity/type were spot on. He ought to also note that the center pin can have a different diameter so it's not just the outside diameter and type that is important.

The best thing to do to be sure is for him to take his dock in to the shop to ensure it fits.
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