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nitesh 07.09.2015 11:31

Does heaters work in night?
 
Heaters in my house are not working in the night time. I asked my landlord...he said "heaters don't work in night in whole Zurich." I really doubt.. Can someone help me with the correct information...

Richdog 07.09.2015 11:38

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Originally Posted by nitesh (Post 2445556)
Heaters in my house are not working in the night time. I asked my landlord...he said "heaters don't work in night in whole Zurich." I really doubt.. Can someone help me with the correct information...

The building heating is probably set on a timer. Mine work at night.

plumtree 07.09.2015 11:38

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Originally Posted by nitesh (Post 2445556)
Heaters in my house are not working in the night time. I asked my landlord...he said "heaters don't work in night in whole Zurich." I really doubt.. Can someone help me with the correct information...

The temperature for heating and hot water may simply be reduced at night by the general settings/thermostat for each building (where buildings have central heating) as it is assumed that it is the time of day when it will be utilized the least since a large proportion of the residents are presumed to be sleeping. If your flat is too cold, nothing is stopping you from using your own portable heater(s), though this will bump up your separate electricity bill (if it is not included in your rent/running costs).

simple_person 07.09.2015 11:39

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In my last apartment heaters were not working in the night for few hours.

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Originally Posted by nitesh (Post 2445556)
Heaters in my house are not working in the night time. I asked my landlord...he said "heaters don't work in night in whole Zurich." I really doubt.. Can someone help me with the correct information...


st2lemans 07.09.2015 11:50

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Ours are off from 10PM-6AM, and from end of April until mid October.

Tom

plumtree 07.09.2015 12:15

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Originally Posted by st2lemans (Post 2445568)
Ours are off from 10PM-6AM, and from end of April until mid October.

That's terrible. It must be freezing. It should be based on the temperature, not on the time of year!
Our heating is already on. It is reduced at night, as is the temperature of the hot water. If people don't want the heating on (or wish to save), you simply turn the radiators down/off!

crazykittylady 07.09.2015 12:19

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Originally Posted by nitesh (Post 2445556)
Heaters in my house are not working in the night time. I asked my landlord...he said "heaters don't work in night in whole Zurich." I really doubt.. Can someone help me with the correct information...

This really depends on how cheap your landlord is. In my old apartment, the owner/landlord had a woodstove installed into his unit and turned off the heat during work hours and at night. Which means the places was rarely above 18°C.

Eventually, a couple with a newborn moved into one of the flats and the mother that was staying at home actually ended up making a formal complaint because their unit was rarely above 15° at night. He finally turned it on 24/7 with a reasonable setting.

According to the rules, i believe there's a minimum temperature at night and another one during the day. However, it's around 17 at night and 20 during the day and not really *warm.* Below 15 is where mold problems tend to creep up. You might want to keep track of the temperature in your flat and complain accordingly with a registered letter, many landlords need a kick in the butt before doing anything. Their bonus depends on spending as little as possible on maintenance and upkeep.

st2lemans 07.09.2015 12:23

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Originally Posted by plumtree (Post 2445582)
That's terrible. It must be freezing.

No, not at all. We even keep a couple of the radiators turned off, and several windows open.

Tom

plumtree 07.09.2015 12:28

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Originally Posted by st2lemans (Post 2445588)
No, not at all. We even keep a couple of the radiators turned off, and several windows open.

Yes but you said heating doesn't even come on until mid-October. What happens if wintry weather occurs before then? Does someone intervene and the heating comes on? Then of course, once it's on you can choose which radiators to put on.
I was of the understanding that it can't/shouldn't be linked to a specific calendar date, but is linked to the actual temperature. Elderly people soon complain if the heating isn't on for example. I am referring to apartment blocks of course, not single-family unit houses/villas.

Belgianmum 07.09.2015 12:32

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Originally Posted by plumtree (Post 2445591)
Yes but you said heating doesn't even come on until mid-October. What happens if wintry weather occurs before then? Does someone intervene and the heating comes on? Then of course, once it's on you can choose which radiators to put on.
I was of the understanding that it can't/shouldn't be linked to a specific calendar date, but is linked to the actual temperature. Elderly people soon complain if the heating isn't on for example. I am referring to apartment blocks of course, not single-family unit houses/villas.

Apartment blocks often have set dates for the heating system. It would be impossible to turn on and off all the time at the whim of the weather in autumn and spring when it can be quite changeable. It's extremely unlikely that wintry weather will occur before mid October.
They generally choose a date when the temperature us consistory below a certain level, if it's unseasonably cold before then I guess you have to put on extra clothing,

fatmanfilms 07.09.2015 12:33

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Originally Posted by plumtree (Post 2445591)
Yes but you said heating doesn't even come on until mid-October. What happens if wintry weather occurs before then? Does someone intervene and the heating comes on? Then of course, once it's on you can choose which radiators to put on.
I was of the understanding that it can't/shouldn't be linked to a specific calendar date, but is linked to the actual temperature. Elderly people soon complain if the heating isn't on for example. I am referring to apartment blocks of course, not single-family unit houses/villas.

It's linked to a specific date as costs are charged at a different rate each month, rather than at an average rate per month. The calculation gets done when you leave. It'ss mentioned in the contract / supporting documentation.

dodgyken 07.09.2015 12:38

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Originally Posted by plumtree (Post 2445591)
Yes but you said heating doesn't even come on until mid-October. What happens if wintry weather occurs before then? Does someone intervene and the heating comes on? Then of course, once it's on you can choose which radiators to put on.
I was of the understanding that it can't/shouldn't be linked to a specific calendar date, but is linked to the actual temperature. Elderly people soon complain if the heating isn't on for example. I am referring to apartment blocks of course, not single-family unit houses/villas.

Being South of the Alps mid-October is likely to about right. I am sure if 2m of snow arrived in September Tom would turn the heating on. He might be mad but he's not stupid. :p

plumtree 07.09.2015 12:48

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Originally Posted by Belgianmum (Post 2445593)
It's extremely unlikely that wintry weather will occur before mid October.

But if it does it is possible to contact the property management office to ask to have it switched on earlier. I'm sure wintry weather occurs in localities at higher altitudes sooner than mid-october, particularly at night.
Ours has come on, as the night temperatures have now dipped. I have set our radiators to our needs.
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Originally Posted by fatmanfilms (Post 2445594)
It's linked to a specific date as costs are charged at a different rate each month, rather than at an average rate per month. The calculation gets done when you leave. It'ss mentioned in the contract / supporting documentation.

Our radiators are only read once a year. Possibly the rates for hot water and general building heating are set at different tariffs for different months, but I can't see how the radiators are.
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Originally Posted by dodgyken (Post 2445600)
Being South of the Alps mid-October is likely to about right. I am sure if 2m of snow arrived in September Tom would turn the heating on. He might be mad but he's not stupid. :p

But if in an apartment block with central heating, you have to ask for it to be put on! Elderly people here do this and it comes on. Half of my neighbours are over 70, one over 80, two over 90, so it is always warm here inside. In his post it is neither specified if he has central heating nor if he is in a flat or a villa.

Meerkat33 07.09.2015 17:19

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In italy (mostly natural gas) they even mandate this by law to reduce gas dependency i guess, different for every area, in the areas around ticino it's mid-april mid-october no heating. And it's true sometimes you suffer the cold in the adjacent weeks because in apartment blocks the manager will not turn it on unless there's the municipal permit for an exception, people with indipendent houses or burners turn it on anyway (I doubt the law is very enforced), others sometimes use an electric heater, it's kind of dumb.
I think in condos with central heating the time when the heating is on and off is decided in assembly by the owners, there are always those trying to save money or simply cold-resistant and those that are cold, also those that don't work so need heat during the day, etc. It's hard to find a consesus since people live very different lives. At night it's common that they are turned off. But we're in 2015, every apartment should get an indipendent heating counter, so everyone can do what they like and use the timer however they like.

jacek 07.09.2015 17:25

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Heaters are off? What's your problem ... Kettle on and few drops of whiskey in a jar. Sorted!

Disclaimer: Don't make it a habit though :)

Wollishofener 08.09.2015 08:31

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Originally Posted by nitesh (Post 2445556)
Heaters in my house are not working in the night time. I asked my landlord...he said "heaters don't work in night in whole Zurich." I really doubt.. Can someone help me with the correct information...


There must be some misunderstandings. It is up to owners and Administrators who usually set the heating times. I suppose what the landlord means is that few people aleady started heating in the Zürich area (around the city Areas while it in the Zürcher Oberland for sure is different

plumtree 08.09.2015 08:44

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Originally Posted by Meerkat33 (Post 2445796)
In italy (mostly natural gas) they even mandate this by law to reduce gas dependency i guess, different for every area, in the areas around ticino it's mid-april mid-october no heating. And it's true sometimes you suffer the cold in the adjacent weeks because in apartment blocks the manager will not turn it on unless there's the municipal permit for an exception, people with indipendent houses or burners turn it on anyway (I doubt the law is very enforced), others sometimes use an electric heater, it's kind of dumb.
I think in condos with central heating the time when the heating is on and off is decided in assembly by the owners, there are always those trying to save money or simply cold-resistant and those that are cold, also those that don't work so need heat during the day, etc. It's hard to find a consesus since people live very different lives. At night it's common that they are turned off. But we're in 2015, every apartment should get an indipendent heating counter, so everyone can do what they like and use the timer however they like.

If it's cold enough to warrant it, the heating can be switched on in August in Ticino. Residents who want to save something can turn their radiators off.

Belgianmum 08.09.2015 08:46

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Originally Posted by plumtree (Post 2446051)
If it's cold enough to warrant it, the heating can be switched on in August in Ticino. Residents who want to save something can turn their radiators off.

You do realise that not every heating system has radiators don't you?

John_H 08.09.2015 08:47

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Kinda annoys me a little .. Being tough northerners (and having a well insulated place) our radiators are switched off permanently. Even with this the kids bedrooms almost never fall below 22 degrees..

However after nearly 3 years of this we never had a refund of heating money.. Yeah I know it's shared across a couple of houses but still, I'm subsidising weak cold people :)

plumtree 08.09.2015 11:05

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Originally Posted by Belgianmum (Post 2446054)
You do realise that not every heating system has radiators don't you?

Yes, but in this case I was referring to those are fortunate to have them and can at least in part regulate their situation temperature-wise!


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