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It's cosy...yet it's not.

There is something missing in Geneva: cosiness. There are some lovely places but as shorter days and darkness fall on us, where are the roaring log fires, comfy armchairs and a feeling of snugness in Geneva restaurants, cafés...


One would hope, for example, that with the hunting season and "game" on offer in most countryside inns, there would be a nice stove at the very least on the go, but no. Temperature left slightly cold, candles on your table if you're lucky. I get the impression that the Swiss are functional rather than snug-orientated. Is it correct or have I just gone to the wrong places these last 5 years?


I am slightly biased, though, having a sudden craving for a nice pint by a fireplace in a cosy pub in the Peak District!
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Old 30.10.2015, 19:07
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Re: It's cosy...yet it's not.

Blame it on the smoking ban. Those who used to frequent the cosy places now stay at home or go to friends houses, where they enjoy log fires and a few drinks, with jass on the side.
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Re: It's cosy...yet it's not.

Or is it that Switzerland is not really cozy at all and we just think it should be?

It has its spots and its moments, but my opinion is that it is not so cozy in reality. That being said...smaller places like Neuchatel, Le Choux de Fonds or Einsiedeln are quite nice. Cities...meh...not so much with exception to one street in Luzern that feels rather relaxed (Bruchstrasse).
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Re: It's cosy...yet it's not.

I think you have to go to the mountains for cozy. Log fires, fondue, mulled wine, checked tablecloths, wood-panelling...
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PLEASE tell me where to go in CH for this!
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Or that, including week-end newspaper and nice, soft jazz music in the background!
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Re: It's cosy...yet it's not.

Is this your home (back home) or a shop?
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Is this your home (back home) or a shop?




Not my home, just a pub, where you can meet people, enjoy a quiet drink or a nice meal with your family (not all pubs are kids friendly, though).


The success is in the mood created: the open log fire, the lighting, the apparent stone and choice of colours... this is one of the keys to cosiness in the U.K.
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Re: It's cosy...yet it's not.

Cozy was hard to find when we first moved here many years ago, now it seems to have become an even more scarce commodity.

A favorite Gasthaus, one I looked forward to cozying up in after an afternoon's hike, was recently renovated. Gone is the Arvenstube with it's low ceiling and Kachelofen, in it's place there is now sterile faux-industrial chic. The cozy is gone, all that remains is the Schnipo.

The old cozy atmosphere lured me to linger over a meal and a bottle of wine. The new stark ambiance makes me feel I should quickly order a coffee and move along.

But I think I might be the only customer who is dismayed at the change - others I have spoken to are happy.

And while I'm grumping over the loss of coziness: I learned this last trip home that the linger-around-the-fireplace haunt of my younger days, the place that I think of as the gold standard of coziness, closed a few years ago. End of an era.

I guess I've just let the Zeitgeist pass me by.
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Re: It's cosy...yet it's not.

The heating works a lot better than in the UK in general so fireplaces are not a necessity most of the time. There are some cosy places in Grimentz but that's rather a long drive. I fancy some roasted chestnuts now.
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I fancy some roasted chestnuts now.
IIRC Migros sells chestnuts which you can pop in your oven and enjoy, or you can go out and hunt down one of the many stands selling them (as Zürich is stuffed with these stands at the moment, I'm sure Geneva has some as well.)
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Not my home, just a pub, where you can meet people, enjoy a quiet drink or a nice meal with your family (not all pubs are kids friendly, though).


The success is in the mood created: the open log fire, the lighting, the apparent stone and choice of colours... this is one of the keys to cosiness in the U.K.
But they're become a lot rarer in the UK too. It's nowhere near as easy to find a nice cosy pub with a roaring fire as it used to be.
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Re: It's cosy...yet it's not.

But there is something quite unique still to British cosiness. Go to a National Trust Xmas and you go out feeling all glowing and happy.
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http://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/article-1355863404281/
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Re: It's cosy...yet it's not.

i think there are plenty of cozy restaurants, not all with a fireplace ok but still cozy. maybe not in geneva though but it's like france i guess.
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i think there are plenty of cozy restaurants, not all with a fireplace ok but still cozy. maybe not in geneva though but it's like france i guess.
1980s dark wood and bright lights is the idea of cosiness both sides of the border...it does not really work!
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Blame it on the smoking ban. Those who used to frequent the cosy places now stay at home or go to friends houses, where they enjoy log fires and a few drinks, with jass on the side.
So how come these places still exist in other countries with stricter smoking bans?


Here's another one:

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Re: It's cosy...yet it's not.

There is nothing like English pubs in Switzerland. It's was great to get some pub grub the other week when I was over there.
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Re: It's cosy...yet it's not.

The choice in Geneva is poor, or better said non existing.

I have to agree with Marsalforn, driving up the mountains is as close as you will get to what you describe.

I've discovered some really cosy places in the Jura (called "buvettes") via the website below:


http://www.buvette-alpage.ch/

OK you'll need to take your car but it is really worth it!
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So how come these places still exist in other countries with stricter smoking bans?
Let's please not turn this thread in a pro/con smoking discussion. There's enough of those already.

I'm here to find cosy places as well!!
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