I'm not offending (offended?). You took a risk and it didn't pay off, oh well.


Yes, in my opinion, the people are either:
a) Criminal (a bit harsh, let's say guilty), because they knew they were importing a fake.
b) Stupid because they thought you could get a Luxury item for the price of 2 Big Mac meals.


You can choose whichever you wish to be. I do think you should be fined either way though, ignorance isn't really an excuse here. I'm going to give you the benefit and say a), because you realise the bags are $1000s here and tried to get a fake one for $25 anyway.

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The last link is clearly selling fake bags. I particularly liked this from their site

Having a vagina does not equal incapacity to do math. Or understand how the world works...

Very quick enquiry, an original Speedy 30 LV bag costs 1500+ dollars
The same bag in Aliexpress [URL removed] costs 25-28 dollars.

Noticing something fishy in this does not require inner or outer sexual organs...

As I mentioned, counterfeit rules depend on each country. The origin of this fake article might not sanction it, there are countries were it is allowed to import it. But you live in one that does not. But again, you as the shopper need to be aware of your local rules. Not everything in the internet is legal/for real/advisable...

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Let's just get back to the OP without the nastiness....

You've lost the bag, don't pay the 900 CHF just send a letter telling them that, you won't hear any more about it. You don't need to fight it so no need for a lawyer. Lesson learned and put it down to experience.

Thing is, people are that stupid. My wife's sister bought Mont-Blanc pens for each of my kids. It didn't occur to her for one minute that 1/3 of the normal price indicated fakery. She just thought she was getting a good deal. This is a woman with a degree in business and another in law.

Educated, intelligent and really really stupid.

For the OP. The lawyer is saying if you send them the money, they won't sue you. He's relying on that being enough to get the money - if you don't pay, they're highly unlikely to both suing you.

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1/3 price I could sort of believe, although I'd probably think at that value they were stolen, rather than counterfeit.

We are talking a discrepancy of 100x-200x RRP value with the LV merchandise though.

OP started by asking for advice on expected fine. Got a good answer and very favourable to the "huge fine" he expected. Then spent the next 5-7 posts disputing that advice. Topping this off with wisecracks.

Why do people come for advice when they have no intention of listening to it? Perplexing.

The offence is importing counterfeit goods.

Because they enjoy a fight as much as the next man.

Wait...what???

Really? I thought that was common knowledge. Why do you think it is absurd laws on the books that punish those that financially support crime?