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I was taking the the train home on my normal route and it wasn't crowded. I was sitting up stairs in the first set of seats(these 4 seater seats) on the left. I hear something coming up the stairs steadily and loudly(couldnt see, I was facing away) and then it wanted to sit next to me. It was a woman with a broken foot and crutches! I smiled and moved my bag for her to sit and said "natuerlich" being a bit startled by her injury.

I'm not startled by her but from the fact that she had walked all the way up the stairs to the place where I was sitting and no one even bothered to give up their seat for a woman with a broken foot and crutches! She was huffing and puffing and seemed relived she could finally sit down. Behind me were a group of men in their 30's chatting away, I'm sure they saw the woman! The people sitting in the seats below saw her too I'm sure and could've gotten up. Sadly this is not the first time I have seeing such things and it shouldn't surprise me being in Switzerland.

Do y'all find that sort of thing normal around here? Perhaps I'm an old fashioned woman myself and I give up my seats for the elderly, pregnant women, and disabled.
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Re: Train etiquette

People get into a "can't be bothered" mode. Sad, really.

Glad you showed some compassion. Good on ya.
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I would'a stood.
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There's no such thing as "train etiquette" in Switzerland.
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Do y'all find that sort of thing normal around here? Perhaps I'm an old fashioned woman myself and I give up my seats for the elderly, pregnant women, and disabled.
No, there are considerate and inconsiderate people here as much as anywhere else.
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Old 20.11.2015, 09:55
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Re: Train etiquette

I am sure that, if somebody with crutches walks into a wagon and asks something along the lines of "may I sit here somewhere?", people would remember their good manners.
Or at least I very very much hope so...
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Re: Train etiquette

Haven't had much luck as an obvious pregnant woman (it really can't be mistaken for too much beer...). Not even in the places usually reserved for "us"... People just avoid eye contact and hope I just go away... I'm not the person to hold my tongue, though, specially considering I'm in constant pain, so I just say something. Usually a bothered person gets up and makes sure to make me feel guilty for demanding a place to sit (under the big sticker saying "for old, pregnant and handicapped people"). Yes, being pregnant is not a sickness, but logic says that if there is a sticker reserving a few places for them, maybe, just maybe, there is a reason to let these women sit down...

Went to Italy a few weeks ago. I got inside the train at rush hour. People were almost fighting to see who was going to be the first to let the tired pregnant woman sit down. There was an almost Coppola moment in which the masses moved aside, while the dim light concentrated on the empty throne waiting just for me... I was almost teary.

There are nice and awful people everywhere. Unfortunately I haven't had much luck in the train line I take in Zürich...
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Re: Train etiquette

Switzerland is the only place where if you're the only person in a carriage someone will come and sit right in front of you! Just like no matter where you stand on a platform someone will bump into you even if you're the only people there!
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Switzerland is the only place where if you're the only person in a carriage someone will come and sit right in front of you! Just like no matter where you stand on a platform someone will bump into you even if you're the only people there!
That's human nature (for some people) and it happens anywhere.

Sometime you park in an empty car park and the next person comes along and parks right next to you so you have trouble opening your door.

At an otherwise empty campsite, someone will pitch their tent two feet from yours.
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At an otherwise empty campsite, someone will pitch their tent two feet from yours.


This is awkward at strip clubs as well
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There's no such thing as "train etiquette" in SwitzerlandZuerich.
Fixed that for you.

Seriously though, I spent some time on crutches recently and found that everyone was very considerate and helpful.
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This is awkward at strip clubs as well
You're doing it wrong.
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Switzerland is the only place where if you're the only person in a carriage someone will come and sit right in front of you! Just like no matter where you stand on a platform someone will bump into you even if you're the only people there!


Having spent 15 years commuting into London, via various routes, travel here is nothing but a pleasure.
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Sadly this is not the first time I have seeing such things and it shouldn't surprise me being in Switzerland.

Do y'all find that sort of thing normal around here? Perhaps I'm an old fashioned woman myself and I give up my seats for the elderly, pregnant women, and disabled.
At least 25% of the population are foreigners, on average one per coach. Half of them women so on average one foreign woman in every other coach. Why did none of them get up?

If generalization didn't exist it would definitely need to be invented even if only for a certain kind of people.
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At least 25% of the population are foreigners, on average one per coach. Half of them women so on average one foreign woman in every other coach. Why did none of them get up?
when in rome...
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Re: Train etiquette

i've never noticed this, people usually give up their seats to people that might need them, especially on the bus, i see so often old ladies having to say people that they don't want to sit it's almost funny.
trains are a different story, on the S-bahn the folded seats are always free, maybe the lady just preferred walking up to sit in the same way the train is going or stuff like that, you sit for a long time on the train after all, people might also be less inclined to give up their seat if they are in a group and still have 1 hour to go.
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Thought we were talking about Zurich here...?
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Re: Train etiquette

Maybe the lady with the crutches felt she would rather sit next to another woman rather than in amongst a load of young men - and would be prepared to hobble a bit further to do that.

That's quite normal.
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I was taking the the train home on my normal route and it wasn't crowded. I was sitting up stairs in the first set of seats(these 4 seater seats) on the left. I hear something coming up the stairs steadily and loudly(couldnt see, I was facing away) and then it wanted to sit next to me. It was a woman with a broken foot and crutches! I smiled and moved my bag for her to sit and said "natuerlich" being a bit startled by her injury.

I'm not startled by her but from the fact that she had walked all the way up the stairs to the place where I was sitting and no one even bothered to give up their seat for a woman with a broken foot and crutches! She was huffing and puffing and seemed relived she could finally sit down. Behind me were a group of men in their 30's chatting away, I'm sure they saw the woman! The people sitting in the seats below saw her too I'm sure and could've gotten up. Sadly this is not the first time I have seeing such things and it shouldn't surprise me being in Switzerland.

Do y'all find that sort of thing normal around here? Perhaps I'm an old fashioned woman myself and I give up my seats for the elderly, pregnant women, and disabled.
My immediate impression would be that if she could walk up the stairs and ignore the seats on the lower deck where she could walk on even floors then she couldn't have been in very dire straits.
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With me, they only make this mistake once. Next time they learn to bring a gas mask and never light an open fire in the morning if I was seen having canned beans the previous evening.
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