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I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union 49 23.11%
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU 68 32.08%
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK 22 10.38%
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing 23 10.85%
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us 17 8.02%
I don't really care 33 15.57%
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Old 10.10.2017, 15:38
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A little desperate. I think you might be attempting to equate the ridiculousness of Mogg with the Tory/Mass Media perception of Corbyn pre-election.

The fact is in the mean time, Tory stock has fallen massively and Labour's has risen. If there were an election tomorrow, the UK would end up with a Corbyn government, by any measure of polling doubt.

Having him crowing from the sidelines (with Boris et al joining in) is only weakining the Tory hand, so they have to do something, but Mogg can't be the answer, I agree...I'm just not sure who can be for them.
Methinks Corbyn's performance is only temporary. It's easy to look good when the government is in such a shambles. Given time and opportunity, I'm sure Corbyn will shoot himself in the foot again.
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Old 10.10.2017, 16:23
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Methinks Corbyn's performance is only temporary. It's easy to look good when the government is in such a shambles. Given time and opportunity, I'm sure Corbyn will shoot himself in the foot again.
I don't think he shot himself in the foot, so much as Rupert Murdoch tried desperately to clusterbomb his feet, but ended up inflicting but a flesh wound.
I'm sure Rupe's too busy trying to decide if he wants Boris, the Moggster or Govey in charge of the Tories to fire any more salvos JC's way for the time being.

If he thinks Labour will win, then he will change his tune anyway, he knows how to change tack with the prevailing wind.
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Old 10.10.2017, 17:38
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Which is EXACTLY what the majority of people who voted for wanted, just to remind everyone stay or leave & without any options in-between.
I doubt that very much! I'd go as far as to say there are very few voters on either side that really appreciate the consequences of their vote. But they will in the next few years and then we'll hear the same thing: this is not what I voted for, we were never consulted etc...
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Maybot malfunctions and adopts radio silence...

http://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenter...te-for-brexit/
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Old 11.10.2017, 11:49
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Which is EXACTLY what the majority of people who voted for wanted, just to remind everyone stay or leave & without any options in-between.
What they wanted and what the referendum stood for are two very different beasts, though.

The referendum was basically pointless.
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Maybot malfunctions and adopts radio silence...

http://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenter...te-for-brexit/
What is the use in her saying if she would vote Brexit now when the vote has already happened, Brexit is underway and needs to be dealt with, and it would anyway just be used to attack and undermine her by whichever side of the Brexit camp was the opposite to what she would vote? I wouldn't answer that question if I were her either, it's basic political common sense.
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Old 11.10.2017, 12:16
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What is the use in her saying if she would vote Brexit now when the vote has already happened, Brexit is underway and needs to be dealt with, and it would anyway just be used to attack and undermine her by whichever side of the Brexit camp was the opposite to what she would vote? I wouldn't answer that question if I were her either, it's basic political common sense.
Because she's a Remainer and all this chaos is a deliberate attempt to cancel Brexit.

Of course she can't admit it, but it's clear as day. It also explains that idiotic dissolution of Parliament. She'll do anything she can - even if it means sacrificing her own career - to throw Brexit off its tracks.

In fifty years' time, the proud citizens of the Atlantic Province of Europia will look upon her as a heroine.

Viva Europia!
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http://www.itv.com/news/2017-10-11/t...ens-rights-eu/



Perhaps we should print off this thread in it's entirety to give the feckless creature some ideas.
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Old 11.10.2017, 17:06
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http://www.itv.com/news/2017-10-11/t...ens-rights-eu/



Perhaps we should print off this thread in it's entirety to give the feckless creature some ideas.
I really wonder about the quality of the advice she receives or does she just ignore it.... It is very hard imagine there are not a least a few people on her staff that are clued in about this stuff...
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Old 11.10.2017, 17:13
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Because she's a Remainer and all this chaos is a deliberate attempt to cancel Brexit.

Of course she can't admit it, but it's clear as day. It also explains that idiotic dissolution of Parliament. She'll do anything she can - even if it means sacrificing her own career - to throw Brexit off its tracks.
I suspect they knew full well how bad this will get and the idea of calling for a GE was to get sufficient seats to have a majority to push the BREXIT deal through, even if there were several defectors.

Of course it did not happen and now they are completely clueless as to what to do next...
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Old 11.10.2017, 21:54
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UK and EU formally inform WTO of post-Brexit tariff quota plan

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After a leak of the letter this month, however, the UK has been told that the arrangement is unacceptable to the US and other WTO members who wish to force the UK to open its market further to their farm products.
Flavours of what is to come... every country is going to want a good deal for themselves....

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However, the PM said the rights of 3 million EU nationals in the UK could “fall away” without and exit agreement, and admitted, "we don't know what would happen to” British citizens living in the EU.

“The EU member states would have to consider what their approach would be to those UK citizens,” she told a phone-in caller.

"By definition, if there isn't a deal we won't have been able to agree with the EU what happens to UK citizens currently living in countries like Spain and Italy and other members of the EU."
That's frightening in the context of Home Office treatment of foreign nationals being given marching orders, when in fact they are entitled to remain in the UK.

Home Office treated couple living legally in UK 'like criminals'

'Leave UK immediately': scientist is latest victim of Home Office blunder

with links to related articles at the bottom of those pages.

A common theme in these reports is that the Home Office is revoking driving licences. That's a particularly nasty trick; I know I depended on being able to drive in preparation for leaving the country.

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What is wrong in what she said?

If there is no deal, ie. if hard Brexit happens, the EU is completely free to decide on what the residence and working rights of the British living in the EU will be.

Which part of that is not so, and what part of that do you criticize?
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What is wrong in what she said?

If there is no deal, ie. if hard Brexit happens, the EU is completely free to decide on what the residence and working rights of the British living in the EU will be.

Which part of that is not so, and what part of that do you criticize?
Also struggling to see the issue here. In the same way the UK will be free to decide what will happen to the EU nationals working there.

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That's frightening in the context of Home Office treatment of foreign nationals being given marching orders, when in fact they are entitled to remain in the UK.
Just wait until you find out how Switzerland treats unemployed foreign nationals
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Old 12.10.2017, 11:36
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Just wait until you find out how Switzerland treats unemployed foreign nationals
1. The quotes are talking about how the UK treats employed foreign nationals
2. DB seems to still be thriving here
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The referendum was basically pointless.
The UK decided to leave, so far from pointless.
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1. The quotes are talking about how the UK treats employed foreign nationals
2. DB seems to still be thriving here
1. This thread is about Brexit. These articles have nothing to do with Brexit.
2. C-Permit holders are treated differently/have more time than B-Permit and L-Permit holders. In my opinion a Swiss style permit system would be a good place to start for managing immigration post Brexit.
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And we can forget any trade deals based upon the 'special relationship'.


http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-41532309
Trumped up story; to coin a phrase

Hard for Boeing to claim damage when they do not make a direct competitor to the Bombardier airliner. For this deal they offered second hand, ex-Brazilian airliners

Anyway the Bombardier airliner has a lot of US content, for example, Pratt and Whitney engines.

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The UK decided to leave, so far from pointless.
Yes, and I am also going to learn the mandolin.

Not saying how long it will take, how much it will cost, what I'll do with my new-found skill or even when I'll start. Plus I might be absolutely useless at it.

But everyone knows I'm going to learn the mandolin.
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But everyone knows I'm going to learn the mandolin.
Don't know why you're bringing small oranges into this debate. We've got enough to worry about with the big orange on the other side of the pond.
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