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I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union 49 23.11%
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU 68 32.08%
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK 22 10.38%
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing 23 10.85%
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us 17 8.02%
I don't really care 33 15.57%
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Everyone can afford to eat healthily. They either don't want to learn or are too ignorant to know how to cook. The obesity crisis in the UK will carry on regardless of Brexit.
So, what you're saying is that you didn't read the article but are pontificating on the subject nonetheless.
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Everyone can afford to eat healthily. They either don't want to learn or are too ignorant to know how to cook. The obesity crisis in the UK will carry on regardless of Brexit.
"...over a third of whom [of the unemployed] reported that they had either reduced the quality of their diet, or missed meals out altogether, because they had insufficient cash to buy food."
"It categorised 8% of all respondents as having low or very low food security, suggesting that almost four million adults regularly struggle to put food on the table."
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Of course they're all lying bastards, and the Food Standards Agency is in on it, too. There's no way this could be the harsh reality.
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Old 20.11.2017, 15:43
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"...over a third of whom [of the unemployed] reported that they had either reduced the quality of their diet, or missed meals out altogether, because they had insufficient cash to buy food." article

Of course they're all lying bastards, and the Food Standards Agency is in on it, too.
When I was younger, poorer people did not have heating, a home phone or a car. Todays poor would have been considered comfortably off in the late 1960's.
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https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%...TDZ5RV3IIof0Kw

Auf Deutsch gesagt (gesungen...)

Reminds me abit of Renaud's 'Mrs Tas de chair' ...
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Old 20.11.2017, 15:50
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"...over a third of whom [of the unemployed] reported that they had either reduced the quality of their diet, or missed meals out altogether, because they had insufficient cash to buy food."
"It categorised 8% of all respondents as having low or very low food security, suggesting that almost four million adults regularly struggle to put food on the table."
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Of course they're all lying bastards, and the Food Standards Agency is in on it, too. There's no way this could be the harsh reality.
Maybe be reality, but I'd be interested to know how many have given up their mobile phones first. And their cigarettes and booze.
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https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%...TDZ5RV3IIof0Kw

Auf Deutsch gesagt (gesungen...)

Reminds me abit of Renaud's 'Mrs Tas de chair' ...
Whats so great about the UK is you can do that, imagine if you did in that CH in CH you would be arrested in minutes.
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"...over a third of whom [of the unemployed] reported that they had either reduced the quality of their diet, or missed meals out altogether, because they had insufficient cash to buy food."
"It categorised 8% of all respondents as having low or very low food security, suggesting that almost four million adults regularly struggle to put food on the table."
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Of course they're all lying bastards, and the Food Standards Agency is in on it, too. There's no way this could be the harsh reality.
The harsh reality is that people place more value on iPhones than they do on putting food on the table.
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Old 20.11.2017, 16:17
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The harsh reality is that people place more value on iPhones than they do on putting food on the table.
The breath-taking assumptions just keep on coming, don't they?
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Old 20.11.2017, 16:22
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Maybe be reality, but I'd be interested to know how many have given up their mobile phones first. And their cigarettes and booze.
I don't mind Oligarch bashing but hating on the poor and dispossessed is punching down. We - people - need phones. We - people - need some human dignity, too, be it a lipstick or pack of cigs from time to time.

Bread and roses.
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I don't mind Oligarch bashing but hating on the poor and dispossessed is punching down. We - people - need phones. We - people - need some human dignity, too, be it a lipstick or pack of cigs from time to time.

Bread and roses.
And when you *need* something so much that you go without eating then you *need* to wake up.
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Old 20.11.2017, 16:29
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And when you *need* something so much that you go without eating then you *need* to wake up.
It's not even that. It's the frankly bizarre assumption that anyone and everyone poor enough to not be able to afford heating or food somehow keeps a bit back for their fags and phone top-ups which is all a bit Daily Mail sensational.

Yes, there are probably a few who can't sort their lives out, never mind their priorities, and they are Daily Mail and Channel 4 documentary fodder to amuse the comfortably-off, but to assume EVERYONE is like that is laughable.
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And when you *need* something so much that you go without eating then you *need* to wake up.
Looking forward to seeing the feedback when you stand outside a foodbank with that trollery.
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Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

Various studies show that when the price of meat increases, instead of buying less meat and more vegetables, people start buying less vegetables so they can afford the same amount of meat (of lesser quality, too).

In the supermarkets, you rarely see well-off people with healthy products loading the carts with Coke+Co - only those who already push a cart stacked with junk-food.

Spending money responsibly is something you learn from your parents - or not at all.

If your parents are a bad example, never will you learn (or only through extreme hardship).
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Looking forward to seeing the feedback when you stand outside a foodbank with that trollery.
Food banks are a sign of a healthy, fully functioning society. I'm happy to see them here.
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When I was younger, poorer people did not have heating, a home phone or a car. Todays poor would have been considered comfortably off in the late 1960's.
And thanks to Brexit, future generations will be able to experience what the 60s were like!
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I don't mind Oligarch bashing but hating on the poor and dispossessed is punching down. We - people - need phones. We - people - need some human dignity, too, be it a lipstick or pack of cigs from time to time.

Bread and roses.
I don't hate anyone, be they poor, rich, dispossessed or someone who owns several mansions. We don't need phones, we just want them. We do need food, it keeps us alive. Nor do I see having a cigarette or lipstick as adding any dignity to anyone.

I don't own a mobile phone, I have no need for one so why spend money on something I don't want? But if I did and it was a choice between being able to feed my kids or play Candy Crush on the thing I know which I'd be getting rid of in a hurry.
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I don't hate anyone, be they poor, rich, dispossessed or someone who owns several mansions. We don't need phones, we just want them. We do need food, it keeps us alive. Nor do I see having a cigarette or lipstick as adding any dignity to anyone.

I don't own a mobile phone, I have no need for one so why spend money on something I don't want? But if I did and it was a choice between being able to feed my kids or play Candy Crush on the thing I know which I'd be getting rid of in a hurry.
Don't be daft, of course people need phones.

Skewed reasoning: only sensible rich people who have money can be contacted in an emergency, if kids are sick, appointment change or communicate with work.. but no, poor people don't have the same needs, they only have phones for candy crush while they pop along to the food bank to scrounge.

Many poor people in the UK work part-time or on zero hour contracts, how else are they to be contacted if they're needed at work
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Well, gee, let me guess. How about by landline phone - like they always used to do before mobiles came into our lives.
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Well, gee, let me guess. How about by landline phone - like they always used to do before mobiles came into our lives.
Or even a cheaper smart phone. People don’t need an iPhone or Samsung Galaxy.
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Well, gee, let me guess. How about by landline phone - like they always used to do before mobiles came into our lives.
Landline phones in the UK are often more expensive, a refurbished mobile phone pay as you go top ups, which most people have, works out cheaper.. but perhaps they should just use tin cans and a length of twine.

Many UK homes now have no landline.
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