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I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union 49 23.11%
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU 68 32.08%
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK 22 10.38%
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing 23 10.85%
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us 17 8.02%
I don't really care 33 15.57%
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Old 21.12.2017, 21:53
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Who pays for such tax cuts?
Poor people with loads of children who don't pay their share of infrastructure costs

Actually more tax is paid as rates are slashed as Mrs Thatcher & Geoffrey Howe showed from 1979.
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Old 21.12.2017, 23:17
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Who pays for such tax cuts?
People Loz doesn't care about. So most of them.
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Old 22.12.2017, 00:46
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Exactly, the UK need to have a nuclear option in the event of no deal. For me that would be a total slashing of corporation tax so that any tariffs could be offset by tax breaks for businesses. Whisper it, but this is what the EU fears most. They like to refer to this approach as a "race to the bottom" (see the outcry over Trump's tax plans for more details).
The kindergarten mentality once again - actions have no consequence! Even with a deal the UK will struggle to get acceptance at the WTO due to the objections of the US etc to the trade schedules. Without it, Mrs. May will be traveling by boat to negotiate trade deals with the non WTO islands nations! It appears though that the UK government is a bit brighter than yourself on that point so a nuclear option is an extremely remote possibility.
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Old 22.12.2017, 00:51
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The BoE plan is a picture of what EU finance institutions stand to gain, or lose.
Clearly you have not got the clue, because what they stand to loose is their very life blood - their European banking licenses, should the go playing silly buggers with the BOE!
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Old 22.12.2017, 02:16
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Clearly you have not got the clue, because what they stand to loose is their very life blood - their European banking licenses, should the go playing silly buggers with the BOE!
You are pretty dense. The UK is perfectly willing to go without a deal whatsoever rather than enter a bad deal.
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Old 22.12.2017, 07:32
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People Loz doesn't care about. So most of them.
The "Let them eat cake" option.
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Old 22.12.2017, 08:20
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You are pretty dense. The UK is perfectly willing to go without a deal whatsoever rather than enter a bad deal.
Really? Their actions so far would suggest they are anything but. At the end of round one they accepted the EU’s position without a single resignation from Grove, Johnson or of the others. May and friends would not take all the humiliation they have done, if there was any realistic alternative.
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Old 22.12.2017, 10:02
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Old 22.12.2017, 10:09
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The kindergarten mentality once again - actions have no consequence! Even with a deal the UK will struggle to get acceptance at the WTO due to the objections of the US etc to the trade schedules. Without it, Mrs. May will be traveling by boat to negotiate trade deals with the non WTO islands nations! It appears though that the UK government is a bit brighter than yourself on that point so a nuclear option is an extremely remote possibility.
Only people that will be pissed will be the EU, the rest of the world simply won't care. See reaction to Trump's tax reforms for details.

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Really? Their actions so far would suggest they are anything but. At the end of round one they accepted the EU’s position without a single resignation from Grove, Johnson or of the others. May and friends would not take all the humiliation they have done, if there was any realistic alternative.
Lower exit payment than wanted by the EU, no clarity on Irish border, middle ground on citizens rights. And the option to withdraw should the end deal not be satisfactory. A "humiliation".
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Old 22.12.2017, 11:40
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Only people that will be pissed will be the EU, the rest of the world simply won't care. See reaction to Trump's tax reforms for details.

EU is great at killing off competition amongst its members, but also debilitates its members in the process. I'm not so sure it can withstand a hard-nosed competitor. I'd love to see the UK go at it.

Germans fear huge loss of jobs from US tax reform
Germany Loses Out in US Tax Reform

I don't think the EU can handle competition when it emasculates and neuters the population of its members.

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Old 22.12.2017, 15:07
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We're going blue!

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-42443253
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Old 22.12.2017, 15:27
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Finally, an end to this burgundy humiliation! It's good we're finally taking back control of the things that matter and not under the jackboot of EU oppression. Oppression such as voluntarily following some passport colour guidelines that are in no way legally binding. See Croatia.
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The EU pisses off Poland, so Poland says they'll back the UK in getting the Brexit deal they want. Delicious.

Poland offers Theresa May backing over Brexit deal amid rift with EU
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The EU pisses off Poland, so Poland says they'll back the UK in getting the Brexit deal they want. Delicious.

Poland offers Theresa May backing over Brexit deal amid rift with EU
Poland may have lost its own voting rights by then!
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Old 22.12.2017, 17:30
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Poland may have lost its own voting rights by then!
They need unaniminity to strip Poland its voting rights, and couldn't the UK still exercise its vote? LOL

Even then, other Visigrad states wouldn't vote against Poland.

Looks like the EU got it up the yin yang this time.
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Old 22.12.2017, 17:44
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The EU pisses off Poland, so Poland says they'll back the UK in getting the Brexit deal they want. Delicious.

Poland offers Theresa May backing over Brexit deal amid rift with EU
Na, you mean the deal the DUP wants.
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FFS and it will cost nearly half a billion - yeah get your priorities right Theresa, huurah

and even worse:


Immigration Minister Brandon Lewis cannot promise that new blue passport will be made in UK @BBCr4today though the security bits he says are all added in UK

(apparently they will be made in Poland - now personally it doesn't bother me that much, but the Kippers won't like it for sure).
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FFS and it will cost nearly half a billion - yeah get your priorities right Theresa, huurah
Like your misrepresentation of what David Davis said, this also isn't true.
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Like your misrepresentation of what David Davis said, this also isn't true.
True, it's only £490m. Bargain.
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True, it's only £490m. Bargain.
Also not true. Delete your account.
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