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Poste Restante delivery VAT refund

Hi, the Mrs. has just ordered something over the Internet from a UK company. As they wont deliver to Switzerland she asked for a Poste Restante delivery to the post office in Divonne (FR).

The price is VAT inclusive and will be subject to at least the Swiss VAT when I bring it across the border.

I was wondering what would be the process of getting the UK VAT refunded? Do I send the retailer a note with proof of export, or is this something the French Duoniers can do when I take the stuff out.

Any advice here would be appreciated.
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Re: Poste Restante delivery VAT refund

Does the retailer even do VAT refund?

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Re: Poste Restante delivery VAT refund

The retailer should not charge VAT. Amazon always knocks it off the bill on my orders to CH from DE and UK.
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Re: Poste Restante delivery VAT refund

I believe you will have two issues.

First, the company you ordered from may not have any policy or procedure in place to refund the VAT. There's no legal right for them to do so, and typically only large online shops and places near an EU border bother to do so, to attract custom. The fact they won't deliver to Switzerland points to them not offering VAT-free shopping.

Second, when you export the goods into Switzerland the local French customs office will need to stamp your invoice to say the goods have been exported. The main problem here is that you need to have them stamp an invoice showing your address in Switzerland, so if you ony have paperwork showing the drop-box address in France then they won't stamp it.

Am I right in this point above? How does Las Burg work for those who use it with e.g. Amazon. Do you have delivery address=Germany and invoice address=Switzerland?

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The retailer should not charge VAT. Amazon always knocks it off the bill on my orders to CH from DE and UK.
Two things wrong with this as far as helping the OP is concerned: (1) that's up to Amazon, there's no "should not charge" and (2) the item was delivered within the EU not to Switzerland. Thanks for playing!
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Re: Poste Restante delivery VAT refund

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The retailer should not charge VAT.
The retailer must charge (French!) VAT as physical delivery is to an address in France.

The retailer may _offer_ to reimburse VAT once it has been proven (by the customer) that the goods have been exported outside of the common customs area (i.e. imported into Switzerland) by a person resident outside of the common customs area.

So, in other words: Take bill and have it stamped at the border. That then only requires that the retailer is willing to play his part (there is no legal requirement within the EU for the retailer to _have_ to reimburse the VAT in the scenario you described).

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Amazon always knocks it off the bill on my orders to CH from DE and UK.
Amazon is a completely different story: 1) Amazon delivers into Switzerland, 2) Amazon executes the complete import process as part of the delivery servicing, which takes care of all customs and taxes being sorted out by Amazon - and this includes the 8% Swiss VAT whenever they are to be paid.

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Second, when you export the goods into Switzerland the local French customs office will need to stamp your invoice to say the goods have been exported. The main problem here is that you need to have them stamp an invoice showing your address in Switzerland, so if you ony have paperwork showing the drop-box address in France then they won't stamp it.
Adrian,

Good question!

Despite having stopped to claim VAT numerous times at the border (on things well north of 1k GBP value) I don't remember having to provide proof that I was a resident of Switzerland. As far as I remember, all I had to sign was a form testifying that I was exporting the goods out of the EU.
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Adrian,

Good question!

Despite having stopped to claim VAT numerous times at the border (on things well north of 1k GBP value) I don't remember having to provide proof that I was a resident of Switzerland. As far as I remember, all I had to sign was a form testifying that I was exporting the goods out of the EU.
You need to show proof - either a Swiss passport or a B/C/whatever permit. At least that's what has to be shown in all the borders near me.

My question wasn't actually about showing proof one lives in Switzerland, but whether proof is needed that the goods were invoiced to a Swiss address.
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Re: Poste Restante delivery VAT refund

I've got a copy of the 'invoice' charged to my wife's credit card, that I will take with me.

Important question is if the retailer will process a VAT refund - and I will be checking that.

On the Poste Restante procedure at the French Post Office - Is there anything I should know. I admit I haven't done this before but it's apparently just show up and ask if they have any mail for you? (??)
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