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Breakout of the trolley - everything. Fruit, veg, meat, cheese, alcohol, nappies, wet wipes, almost everything. I did mention above, family of 5 with 3 small children. For us as non-food wasters is impossible to live on 100chf per week. (Aldi or not)
That doesn't help really - totals don't allow people to make a judgement on the savings - for example you may have bought a large amount of meat (personal choice) or a lot of locally (german) produced alcohol (which in a like for like comparison would be more expensive)

Nappies can be a big saving - CH prices around 27rpn per nappy - with online discount/bulk buys getting that down to 22rpn. Aldi own brand are around 16rpn. (UK prices are crazy low - 8p per nappy in Tesco). I'd be interested to know where you bought the nappies and what price you paid per nappy.

A representative trolley shouldn't include demographic specific items - which in your case, with 3 young children, would include a large number of wet wipes and nappies.

For you, in your situation and with your budget, a fortnightly shop in Germany makes economic and time sense - for many others, whose "trolley" contains fewer traditional high CHF cost items the difference will be much less.
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Old 14.09.2016, 11:30
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Re: Savings - grocery shopping in Germany.

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For you, in your situation and with your budget, a fortnightly shop in Germany makes economic and time sense
That is exactly why I did this post. To share my experiences.
But also read few other experiences, which is always good!

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In my experience a "trolley" of goods is most expensive COOP, then Migros and then ALDI/LIDL.
+1 on that. I am tempted to start a boycott action against buying meat at COOP. Not only because it's expensive, but because it's almost all imported.
But Aldi/Lidl are not good for meat either. If one needs much meet at once (for large family or grill party), I'd recommend Aligro. Good quality, mostly local, reasonable prices. Pity that there are only few Aligro shops in Switzerland... And, probably, COOP will eat them up, like he did with Jumba and Carrefour few years ago. Promising to keep the assortment, heh...
Well, joggling between Swiss groceries, comparing to Kaufland, you'll probably save CHF 100.- on that trolley, not 175.- And spend 2-3 hours rather than 5-6. It's always good to have a medium-range option! ))
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+1 on that. I am tempted to start a boycott action against buying meat at COOP. Not only because it's expensive, but because it's almost all imported.
But Aldi/Lidl are not good for meat either.
A big chunk of Aldi/Lidl (Lidi) meat is not Swiss sourced - which I was surprised to find too. Turkey is pretty much always sourced from Hungary - whether you are in Migros/Coop/Lidi.

I buy meat from our local butcher as it is from the local region - ethically produced and very well butchered. It is a personal choice. It is pretty much the same price as COOP and does form a sizeable chunk of our weekly spend. It is actually the cheaper cuts whose quality is much improved compared to the supermarket.
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Re: Savings - grocery shopping in Germany.

The biggest cross border saver for us was when our son was on formula. A carton of Aptamil here is about 26chf, compared to around 14eur in Germany. Baby wipes are also a big saver. Diapers we usually stocked up in CH when there was a 50% sale on store brands we knew/liked. It is also nice to save on meat, but with the kilo/person limit, the savings on this alone do not make the trip worth while.

A nice bonus (excuse to go) is a great steakhouse meal at a reasonable price. http://www.la-estancia-waldshut.de/home.html
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Re: Savings - grocery shopping in Germany.

I go 3-4 times a year when the kids get an extra day off school because their teachers do some sort of training.

In the morning we head to a water park in Weil am Rhein where we spend a couple of hours. The entrance fee at this place is about a quarter of what we would pay at a similar facility in Bern.

In the afternoon the kids get to watch a movie at a movie theatre located in a (never renovated since the 80s) shopping mall in Weil while I do groceries.

Going there takes us an hour, coming home longer because we hit traffic in Basel. I would not go for shopping alone but in combination with a fun day at a water park I'm willing to do the drive. I stock up on detergents, toiletries etc. And Kölln Schoko Müsli that I cannot find in Switzerland.
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Well, joggling between Swiss groceries, comparing to Kaufland, you'll probably save CHF 100.- on that trolley, not 175.-
It is a bit unfair to say that.
On my return I did personally compared the Coop prices on their website with their cheapest product in range.

Do your own calculation and share it with us.
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Re: Savings - grocery shopping in Germany.

Medium option of jogging between local chains only works if you can really afford it timewise and don't mind still blowing a bit of cash. I think we are extremely lucky for living a few kms from the border. If I check my local shopping list for here, I get it split exactly between a couple of chains, not much saving and too much jogging. While, hello Casino with everything I need and for a half. Shopping in German Lidl was the same in the summer.

Besides, I firmly belive that medium option of jogging between 2-3 chains is exactly what cartels agree on. It is a compromise. Some cheap stuff, some pricey. Other will have different goods cheap and different pricey, so they split the clientelle, everybody gets profit and a client a little bit of a discount. Or what would be the points (data) collecting cards for... They know who buys what and where, what the budget is.
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And Kölln Schoko Müsli that I cannot find in Switzerland.
Weetabix Chocolate is one of the main reason why I shop to Kaufland!
I usually empty the whole aisle
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It is a bit unfair to say that.
On my return I did personally compared the Coop prices on their website with their cheapest product in range.

Do your own calculation and share it with us.
Any comparison is going to be a bit arbitrary as you are comparing specific items on a specific day and not taking offers etc into account.

For example I never buy toilet rolls or washing up liquid or other basic things like that unless they are on offer.
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Re: Savings - grocery shopping in Germany.

I think I've posted this on the forum in the past but if you can't be arsed heading over the border (like me and my can't-do attitude ), this website shows all the offers coming up in the next week or so in the Swiss supermarkets, on a rolling basis.

https://www.aktionis.ch/

Sometimes you can get quite a few bargains if you are willing to stock up on, say, cheap washing powder or other dry goods.



EDIT: Ooh, good I checked - Persil's on 50% at Coop. Get in!

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Re: Savings - grocery shopping in Germany.

Your saving calculation is a bit of. You only look at the diesel used and miss the other car running costs. From Zug to Waldshut and back are 140km which is an other 50 in running cost.
Additionally, in the 4-5 hours you need for shopping your husband could work as a cleaning lady and make an other 20 to 25 per hour.
Finally your kids, they could either knot carpets with their tiny hands (makes around 5 per hour) or practice tennis and aim for the Wimbeldon price money.

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Re: Savings - grocery shopping in Germany.

I have been irregularly shopping in France and Germany for about 20 years, and even allowing for motoring costs, the savings are always fantastic. Shame you have to spend 2 hours shopping abroad every 2 weeks, in Switzerland you wouldn't spend this amount of time shopping would you?

If you have children, and live within 100 Km of the border, it would be madness not to go shopping every 2 weeks. You can also then afford a family lunch in a restaurant with your children. If you have no children at home, then it probably isn't worth going every month, as Aldi-Lidl-Denner offer very good prices.

Last weekend I bought some smoked haddock in France, now where can you buy that here?
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Last weekend I bought some smoked haddock in France, now where can you buy that here?
Funny you should say that. I happened to be in Manor yesterday and they had some there. It's the first time I've ever seen it there. It's one of the things we buy when we shop in France.
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Last weekend I bought some smoked haddock in France, now where can you buy that here?
http://ch.kompass.com/a/schellfisch-gerauchert/0338014/
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Hello.
I wondered for months. How much you save by grocery shop in Germany?
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Savings of around 175 Euro.

Just in case some of you wondered too, worth or not.
Sure, it could work if you eat/use everything you buy. I've done this and later found I didn't really use up everything I bought. So you may have to do this more strategically and consciously.

I'll typically buy things that do not expire; dried goods, cleaning products, etc. And then as needed, buy fresh produce, dairy and meats from Coop.
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Re: Savings - grocery shopping in Germany.

France here - generally weekly as it is 15 mins drive over the border. Petrol, cheese, dairy - particularly butter and yoghurt, meat, toiletries, the odd bit of school supplies - these are all hands down money savers.

And print - magazines, books and newspapers. I am more than happy to buy another issue of some childrens' magazine when it is a couple of euros - as opposed to 7chf 50 in the kiosk shop at the station. Same goes for books too.
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Re: Savings - grocery shopping in Germany.

A question to those who bulk buy dry food (cereals, tinned food, etc) - where do you store your haul? In your Keller? Oder?

We have a reduit where I keep some of my haul, as I am not sure the cereals will keep in our Keller. But I am rapidly running out of space!

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And print - magazines, books and newspapers. I am more than happy to buy another issue of some childrens' magazine when it is a couple of euros - as opposed to 7chf 50 in the kiosk shop at the station. Same goes for books too.
Magazines and books are really expensive! Imagine my surprise when two Donald Duck comic strips costed me Fr 38!!!! *

Now we try to get them in Germany. Or at the local Brocki, where they cost between Fr 2-5 each!

* yes, I am guilty as charged for not looking at the prices before I "approved" the purchase
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A question to those who bulk buy dry food (cereals, tinned food, etc) - where do you store your haul? In your Keller? Oder?

We have a reduit where I keep some of my haul, as I am not sure the cereals will keep in our Keller. But I am rapidly running out of space!

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That depends a lot on your cellar. In my old apartment it was very humid with gravel on the floor. I couldn't store food things there but it was great for wine ;-). Now I have a concrete floor and it's well isulated so no problem in storing things. My parents have a air-raid shelter (the joys of Swiss homes...) and they store everything there. Maybe best to try with some food and keep checking if you feel it goes bad.
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