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What? So this means we can't bring any meat back from the UK after end of 2020?

https://www.blv.admin.ch/blv/en/home...severkehr.html
Unless somehow an agreement is reached on this during 2020 you are correct.
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Hello.
I wondered for months. How much you save by grocery shop in Germany?
As I was under impression that I'm wasting my day by shopping in Germany and wanted to stop doing it... I did the calculation my self today.
223.00 Euro spent in Kaufland.
Same / similar shopping in Coop would of been 415 Euro. (subject to food quality etc)
10-15 Euro Diesel
Minimum 4-5h needed from Zug.
Savings of around 175 Euro.

Just in case some of you wondered too, worth or not.
Fruit and vegs-saving
Meat saving-but inferior quality
Other products-saving -if its the exactly same brand and product as here-otherwise cannot compare ( inferior )
Pharmacy saving- if its exactly the same brand and product as here- otherwise cannot compare

No MWSt back for less than a 50 Euro purchase
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Germany introduced this week a minimum 50 euro spend before you get the form to claim back the tax.

The media is claiming this will be a big impact on people shopping over the border and on the shops near the border. I doubt that many people bother with the procedure to claim back only one or two euros (on food shopping), 50 euros spent on food only brings you about three and a half euros back.

Originally they were talking about matching France with a 175 euro limit.

They also say that when a new digital system (i.e. non-manual) is introduced they will drop the 50 euro limit, possibly even this year.
I have noticed there is a little less congestion right at the customs office, but otherwise the stores seem just as busy.

Where non food items are concerned, some stores previously had their own limit, for example 20 Euros, before issuing a tax refund claim form.

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I have noticed there is a little less congestion right at the customs office, but otherwise the stores seem just as busy.

Where non food items are concerned, some stores previously had their own limit, for example 20 francs, before issuing a tax refund claim form.
on 58 Euros spent I get 9.42 Euros back. Bought Voltaren Gel-a big saving compared to CH price
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Re: Savings - grocery shopping over the border.

Once again I'm not convinced about shopping food in Germany. I bought flaky pastry, should be no big deal, should it?
There was absolutely nothing flaky about it. It tasted - seriously weird (straight out of the pack .... yeah a childhood tick, I normally love that stuff raw as well as fully baked)
It contains palm fat And I wonder what "natürliche Aromen" (natural flavour) is in flaky pastry?!?! That's probably what made it so disgusting. ROFL.

I love food. No way I go for minor taste and quality. I'll just return to buying soap, lotions etc. etc. when picking up my amazon stuff.
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New Swiss Customs rules from 1st Jan.

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So if I pop over the border to Germany and buy some Argentinian steak then I will presumably be breaking the law on the "country of origin" rules? Anybody know if I am correct?
Strange that Iceland is not specifically mentioned?
Iceland is not mentioned as it is prohibited to import animal products from there. Norway is specifically mentioned as it is not in the EU and it is not prohibited to import animal products from there.

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What? So this means we can't bring any meat back from the UK after end of 2020?
https://www.blv.admin.ch/blv/en/home...severkehr.html
Maybe they will adjust the regulation from 1.1.21 and it will read from the EU, Norway and the UK.
Do you bring animal products from the UK to CH?
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Re: Savings - grocery shopping over the border.

I buy Argentinian steak from Allegra and its much cheaper that Migros, saves the effort of going over the border and I can buy as much of whatever I like without worrying about being checked.



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New Swiss Customs rules from 1st Jan.

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So if I pop over the border to Germany and buy some Argentinian steak then I will presumably be breaking the law on the "country of origin" rules? Anybody know if I am correct?

Strange that Iceland is not specifically mentioned?
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I buy Argentinian steak from Allegra and its much cheaper that Migros, saves the effort of going over the border and I can buy as much of whatever I like without worrying about being checked.
Do you mean Aligro? I was introduced to that shop and I loved it. Unfortunately Schlieren is not really my area. So I still don't have a card to get in.


Edit: Just learnt there is one in Brüttisellen and one in Frauenfeld. Now that changes things.
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Re: Savings - grocery shopping over the border.

Was over the border in De. today and bought some French cheese and Norwegian salmon steaks. I find the taste and quality are the same in different countries just the price changes.

I also found some artificial fur lined felt slippers for 6 euro.

I only buy flaky pastry in Migros. Over the border, I prefer to buy raw ingredients rather than pre-prepared foods.

About Allegra, did you mean Aligro?
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Do you mean Aligro? I was introduced to that shop and I loved it. Unfortunately Schlieren is not really my area. So I still don't have a card to get in.
Wanna go shopping soon?
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Wanna go shopping soon?
Yes, let's go for it! Tell me when to be where.
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Was over the border in De. today and bought some French cheese and Norwegian salmon steaks. I find the taste and quality are the same in different countries just the price changes.

I also found some artificial fur lined felt slippers for 6 euro.

I only buy flaky pastry in Migros. Over the border, I prefer to buy raw ingredients rather than pre-prepared foods.

About Allegra, did you mean Aligro?
Yep, back to Migros it is for me too. You made a good point there: pre-prepared food seems to be the problem. A thing I hardly ever buy. Somehow flaky pastry did not register as pre-prepared food to me so far. I mean really, make my own flaky pastry? I only got so much life left to live.
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Re: Savings - grocery shopping over the border.

I never attempt to make flaky pastry either!
I make my own pizza bases but that is relatively simple.

Speaking of which Kassensturz did a test of premade pizzas. The Manor one at CHF 7 was near the bottom and the Lidl one at two francs near the top.
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I never attempt to make flaky pastry either!
I make my own pizza bases but that is relatively simple.

Speaking of which Kassensturz did a test of premade pizzas. The Manor one at CHF 7 was near the bottom and the Lidl one at two francs near the top.
Yeah, saw that one. Always make my own pizze.
I remember it drove me absolutely crazy, that the female commentator kept saying "pizzas" and that about a million times.
Finally the commentator of Kassensturz at least said it correctly. Pheeew. And this in Switzerland.
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Yes ! Sorry I can’t spell 🤣 I’m there now I visit once a week when I’m in CH

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Do you mean Aligro? I was introduced to that shop and I loved it. Unfortunately Schlieren is not really my area. So I still don't have a card to get in.


Edit: Just learnt there is one in Brüttisellen and one in Frauenfeld. Now that changes things.
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Yeah, saw that one. Always make my own pizze.
I remember it drove me absolutely crazy, that the female commentator kept saying "pizzas" and that about a million times.
Finally the commentator of Kassensturz at least said it correctly. Pheeew. And this in Switzerland.
Corpus linguists would disagree. Frequency rules.

I have to say that pizzas don't drive me absolutely crazy. Nor other stuff. But we make one big pizza.
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Once again I'm not convinced about shopping food in Germany. I bought flaky pastry, should be no big deal, should it?
There was absolutely nothing flaky about it. It tasted - seriously weird (straight out of the pack .... yeah a childhood tick, I normally love that stuff raw as well as fully baked)
It contains palm fat And I wonder what "natürliche Aromen" (natural flavour) is in flaky pastry?!?! That's probably what made it so disgusting. ROFL.

I love food. No way I go for minor taste and quality. I'll just return to buying soap, lotions etc. etc. when picking up my amazon stuff.
Shopping in Germany can save a lot of money, but one needs to know the prices in Switzerland to avoid buying things that are even more expensive in Germany, or give no saving at all.

Cleaning materials, noodle soups, cookies, toilet-paper, sauces like mayonaise, shampoo/soup and such are easily a big saver in Germany, but other things like canned tomatoes can easily be twice (or more) the price of here since Coop very often has their homebrand which are just as good for half the price. And we most often combine it with a restaurant since that is almost half the price of here, last Monday we had a mixed BBQ plate for 2 with more meat than we could eat, a meal for the kid and 6 drinks for 64,-
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Yeah, saw that one. Always make my own pizze.
I remember it drove me absolutely crazy, that the female commentator kept saying "pizzas" and that about a million times.
Pizzas doesn't bother me, probably because it's been a common English word for generations, and is pluralised that way in other languages, e/g/ French, as well. What does get me is when plural Italian words are borrowed and used as the singular, like un panini, and then of course they're also pluralised with the s, so deux paninis, des spaghettis etc.

Still, borrowed words belong to their new owners, so we really don't have any right to insist that they retain the grammatical rules of the donor language.
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Re: Savings - grocery shopping over the border.

In case anyone is interested I took photos of some of the prices in Aligro today and can tell you that....



American spare ribs were 21.40 per kilo,

Irish beef filet was 67 per kilo,

Irish rib eye beef was 43.90 per kilo,

USA black Angus filet was 78.80 per kilo,

Swiss Beef entrecote was 24.50 per kilo,

beef chunks were 13.30 per kilo
beef shoulder was 16.10 per kilo



Persil colour liquid 100 wash bottle was 22.80
Peesil duo caps x 60 were 19.90
Persil powder 100 washes was 22.80


and then some prices from my till receipt...


Diet Coke x 24 33cl cans - 12.00
Beef cheeks - 1.65kg - 16.53
parma ham 250g - 16.53
goose fat jar - 7.60
1kg Gran Padano - finely grated - 14.00
Woolite washing liquid 25 washes - 8.90


I personally like that I can get things in Aligro that I can't get easily anywhere else. beef cheeks, whole duck, some asia spices and fresh and frozen fish.

It is BIG and not everyone likes this... and of course things are in bulk so you need a freezer and space.... or a friend to go halves with. I regularly buy a whole fillet and we will do a family BBQ or I buy the chunks of beef and make my own minced meet then have a day where I make a big pot of bolognese, assemble lasagna, assemble beefburgers and also make a beef chunk curry.... then I have loads of nice things in the freezer....so you also need time... but if you are a housewife and have both a family and some time I'd definitely suggest having a look. The membership is free and even though there are only 2 of us I find it better than giving up half a day to go to Germany...
Here is a link to their 'specials' this week



https://www.aligro.ch/actions/

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Re: Savings - grocery shopping over the border.

I applied for a card just before Christmas. I never bothered before as the nearest branch was a long way away but there's one much nearer to us now.

Anyway, how long does it take to get a card?
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