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What (Swiss) watch do you wear?

I recently read an article on the Daily Drivel about watch renting... got me thinking about what I wear daily, and then I wondered about EFers...

so.. what gives you the time?


I, for one, am wearing a Baume & Mercier - Hampton model
(and have not been upgraded on a flight in a long while )
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A Suter Automatic gold plated, stainless steel

Priceless 50+year old, heirloom from my beloved grandpa, of a manufacturer in Grenchen (which doesn't exist anymore)
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Despite having spent a fair bit of time collecting and repairing watches I almost never wear one. When I do it is usually a Poljot automatic from the 1950s which I just happen to like more than the others.
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A Swatch Irony Chronograph

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I so wish I still had the Favre-Leuba my dad made me when I was young - but a ********** pretending to want to buy our Mini stole it from our house in the Midlands. I would recognize it anywhere in the world ...and the brand does not exist anymore (Jaeger Lecoultre now). If I could afford it I'd buy one of the great local names which are less famous, like a Nardin. I wear a £10 watch bought on the market in Leicester
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I rarely wear a watch and typically only do so when I am travelling a lot and need to know the time regularly for trains/planes etc. Or if I will be stuck out of civilisation and will not have regular access to power/phone.

For this, I use a Casio watch.
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I recently read an article on the Daily Drivel about watch renting... got me thinking about what I wear daily, and then I wondered about EFers...

so.. what gives you the time?


I, for one, am wearing a Baume & Mercier - Hampton model
(and have not been upgraded on a flight in a long while )
a standard CANDINO watch
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@Odile: I really admire people who can sell these very expensive luxury goods. Apple's margins must pale compared to the Swiss watchmakers'. I keep in my hand a smartphone, a gadget that's a pinnacle of human mind. Amazing tech - microwave radio links, complex signal encoding, image and sound encodings, color processing for photo, digital camera, sophisticated software architecture with complexity rivaling any other human top complex machinery. Amazing display. Even the way the fonts are rasterized to make them legible fill up volumes of research papers. And all this at a price of a low-end Swiss watch, or less.
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@Odile: I really admire people who can sell these very expensive luxury goods. Apple's margins must pale compared to the Swiss watchmakers'. I keep in my hand a smartphone, a gadget that's a pinnacle of human mind. Amazing tech - microwave radio links, complex signal encoding, image and sound encodings, color processing for photo, digital camera, sophisticated software architecture with complexity rivaling any other human top complex machinery. Amazing display. Even the way the fonts are rasterized to make them legible fill up volumes of research papers. And all this at a price of a low-end Swiss watch, or less.
All that at the price as a low-end Swiss watch... and nowhere near as beautiful. If cared for a watch will also last 50+ years... how long will your shiny new smartphone last? That's a rhetorical question.

You either have an appreciation for the beauty and complexity of Swiss automatic watches... or you don't.
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All that at the price as a low-end Swiss watch... and nowhere near as beautiful. If cared for a watch will also last 50+ years... how long will your shiny new smartphone last? That's a rhetorical question.



You either have an appreciation for the beauty and complexity of Swiss automatic watches... or you don't.
I agree, I must be somehow arts-blind. But I cat still bite back that the best creative minds are employed as industrial designers by the mass-manufacturers :-) However I don't recall buying a gadget or a car mostly by its look.
There is one area where I pay attention to "the look": I admire a well written piece of computer code :-)
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I agree, I must be somehow arts-blind. But I cat still bite back that the best creative minds are employed as industrial designers by the mass-manufacturers :-) However I don't recall buying a gadget or a car mostly by its look.
There is one area where I pay attention to "the look": I admire a well written piece of computer code :-)
Yacek,

I know the beauty of code. Imagine being able to see that beauty in a moving part while it is actually doing what it does in realtime... no compiler, memory map, or block level diagram: just the thing, as thing, doing its thing.

Watch this and deny that it is cool as hell:

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@Odile: I really admire people who can sell these very expensive luxury goods. Apple's margins must pale compared to the Swiss watchmakers'. I keep in my hand a smartphone, a gadget that's a pinnacle of human mind. Amazing tech - microwave radio links, complex signal encoding, image and sound encodings, color processing for photo, digital camera, sophisticated software architecture with complexity rivaling any other human top complex machinery. Amazing display. Even the way the fonts are rasterized to make them legible fill up volumes of research papers. And all this at a price of a low-end Swiss watch, or less.
Yacek,

The very expensive luxury watches are not mass produced, they are small run quantities and they sell to an afficionado customer who is willing to pay a premium to have something special, if not unique.

The only special and unique things about a smartphone are the imei, the mix of software, contacts, data etc, and the arrangement of nicks scratches and dings on the case. A feature, or set of features sets one generation of smartphones apart from another, but that is generational for the whole production series. There is nothing special or unique about a smartphone.

Don't get me wrong, a smartphone is an impressive piece of technology and the number of highly intelligent and even gifted people who have contributed to its production is huge.

But if you go back in the history of horology to about 1660 when either Hooke, or Huygens invented (or discovered) the balance spring, which was the breakthrough that made a timepiece portable, and follow the progress from Tompion through to Daniels, and consider that the vast majority of horologists which moved the technology forward were for the most part working without what we would call a scientific world view, or even a reasonable fast and efficient way to communicate with each other, having contact to only a few similar minds, then you can hardly come away with a view of their endeavours which regards them as anything other than a pinnacle of the achievements of the human mind. Most of them didn't just develop the idea of some feature, but rather the whole technology, mathematics, measurement, tooling, and methods, and the generally did this on their own.

I admit, I am a fan. I collect and used to repair English fusee pocket watches from the 1800s. These were the mass produced high tech of their day. Amongst other things they include a chain which connects the spring barrel to the fusee which as a pair compensate for the fact that a spring delivers less force as it winds down. This chain is roughly speaking 10cm long, 1mm wide, and about 0.6mm thick. It was assembled by hand by a chain maker who used steel of the best quality and hardened parts with a furnace he had made himself using chemistry which included soot, coal dust, blood and dust made from animal hoofs. The construction of the chain is basically the same as a bicycle chain today, just without the roller barrels. The chain is just one of 80-120 parts in this mechanism.

When I open any of these watches, and see the construction and engraving and precision of these devices I am impressed. In the back of my head I hear a chorus of skilled craftsmen who have all been dead for at least 100 years saying "Fecit. I am skilled in the art.". Perhaps I am anachronistic, or easily impressed. Lets talk in 200 years and see how many smartphones still work. Let's not even demand that they work, we'll just judge them as devices by if one can make them run again them a workshop that will fit on top of a normal sized desk.

Smartphones are impressive in one way, timepieces in another completely different one.
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There is just no comparison - I grew up with watch makers, in the old watch making farming valleys of the Jura- the skills and artisan work, including guillochage and automation, is just breathtaking.

Richdog, great post- but many of the best watches are not automatic.

Did anyone watch the programme.

On 5th of November, a newly refurbished Museum in a magnificent 18th house in the village of Môtiers (of Maison de l'Absinthe fame- 2 doors up - so visiting both will be perfect- then Mauler 'Champagne' - with train station 2 mins away) - totally dedicated to artisan peasant watch-makers- like early Breguet and his step-father Tatet. Much to cold and too much snow to farm here in the winter months- but the light is so bright in the upper valleys of the Jura- so farmers became watch-makers in winter time- and their wives made lace.

Anyone interested in visiting and need more info can get in touch by pm.
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I think that's a matter of perspective... personally I cannot appreciate a digital or quartz watch in anything approaching the same way as an automatic timepiece containing a complex movement, as that to me represents true craftsmanship.

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I did. How could I not?

If you haven't heard of it, "A Grand Complication: The Race to Build the World's Most Legendary Watch." tells the story of J.W. Packard and H. Graves jr. competing with each other to have the most complicated watch ever constructed. A very enjoyable read,
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@Odile: I really admire people who can sell these very expensive luxury goods. Apple's margins must pale compared to the Swiss watchmakers'. I keep in my hand a smartphone, a gadget that's a pinnacle of human mind. Amazing tech - microwave radio links, complex signal encoding, image and sound encodings, color processing for photo, digital camera, sophisticated software architecture with complexity rivaling any other human top complex machinery. Amazing display. Even the way the fonts are rasterized to make them legible fill up volumes of research papers. And all this at a price of a low-end Swiss watch, or less.
A high-end watch will hold and/or appreciate in value...and is one of the few intrinsically engineered mechanical pieces of technology left in this world. Some people (outside of the ones who buy just for image) admire that.

There is also a traditionalism associated with buying an expensive watch, many people do it at specific milestones in their lives or hold out for one big selfish purchase. All harmless fun in my eyes.
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A high-end watch will hold and/or appreciate in value...and is one of the few intrinsically engineered mechanical pieces of technology left in this world. Some people (outside of the ones who buy just for image) admire that.

There is also a traditionalism associated with buying an expensive watch, many people do it at specific milestones in their lives or hold out for one big selfish purchase. All harmless fun in my eyes.
I'm quite sure the suspension of my run-of -the mill car has been given much more thought, research, engineering and design finesse than most of the watches, not even mentioning my car's power train, and the manufacturing qualities show after hundreds of hundreds thousands of km exposed to shocks, vibration, extreme temperatures and humidity. If I'm not mistaken the car industry can boast better MTTF

The watches are basically a branding exercise; to me its pinnacle is the "Magic" cards, where real paper, printed with some artwork, is sold for real money.

For each niche of luxury goods there is a well-tuned marketing machinery, e.g. for diamons - The Atlantic: Have You Ever Tried to Sell a Diamond?

For a watch to appreciate in value it must be rare; no watch manufactured in (hundred) thousands will ever be.

I don't deny that is a nice mechanical piece, but just not exceptional, and that it is an emotional etc piece of jewelry, the only one a real man can wear without a shame :-)
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I don't deny that is a nice mechanical piece, but just not exceptional, and that it is an emotional etc piece of jewelry, the only one a real man can wear without a shame :-)
Wedding rings? Or are they suddenly impossibly feminine?
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