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ivank 21.11.2016 11:35

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Originally Posted by fatmanfilms (Post 2695968)
He could have bought the car via a third party, All of the cars I bought were not sold by the registered keeper.

You'd have to name the said third party and the real owner, so that they can be then questioned instead of you :)
Otherwise it's plausible to believe his explanation that he just bought it from you.

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Any advertisement would state the car was a private sale & sold as it is, so no further contract required.
That doesn't still free you from all liability if car turns out to be defective...

fatmanfilms 21.11.2016 11:57

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Originally Posted by ivank (Post 2696011)
You'd have to name the said third party and the real owner, so that they can be then questioned instead of you :)
Otherwise it's plausible to believe his explanation that he just bought it from you.


That doesn't still free you from all liability if car turns out to be defective...

I never knew the details of the dealers who bought my cars in Schlieren, they just pay in cash & are no longer there when you have another car to sell next time.

Never had any issues, even selling a car written off by insurance. You don't seem to be aware that if you tell the seller verbally states the car is sold as is, then that is fine, contracts do not need to be in writing. As this is the normal way a private car is sold, a court will believe you. Even if you buy a car from a garage & pay extra for a guarantee it covers sweet F.A., so likely will not help either.

ivank 21.11.2016 12:08

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Originally Posted by fatmanfilms (Post 2696022)
You don't seem to be aware that if you tell the seller verbally states the car is sold as is, then that is fine, contracts do not need to be in writing..

And you don't seem to be aware that verbal agreements are hardly provable

You want to play it safe - write a contract

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Never had any issues
Just wait until you get yourself a buyer with a sufficiently advanced case of buyers remorse, like this guy.

fatmanfilms 21.11.2016 12:24

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Originally Posted by ivank (Post 2696028)
And you don't seem to be aware that verbal agreements are hardly provable

You want to play it safe - write a contract

Well if they cant be proved the seller does not have an issue. do they!
I would rather not give someone I don't know a copy of my signature, especially if they have my address.

Maracuya 22.06.2017 11:42

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Hi Everyone,

I have a quick question. I'm selling my car because I'm moving back to USA. Today I found someone that wants to buy it. Do you know what is the process for the paperwork? Do I need to make some sort of contract? Or just go to the vehicle office and request a transfer? please help!!

st2lemans 22.06.2017 11:45

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The buyer gives you money, you give the buyer the keys and the grey card, and you hand in the plates.

Tom

Maracuya 22.06.2017 11:49

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Is that easy? Really? Do I have to go with the new owner when I give back the plates?

st2lemans 22.06.2017 11:52

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Originally Posted by Maracuya (Post 2805440)
Is that easy? Really? Do I have to go with the new owner when I give back the plates?

No.

Tom

i-b-deborah 22.06.2017 12:00

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We all wank
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You Wank,

Guest 22.06.2017 12:23

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Originally Posted by i-b-deborah (Post 2805446)
We all wank


Thankyou for your contribution although i hardly see the context; you only need 10 posts to sell and you already have these

i-b-deborah 22.06.2017 12:58

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Sorry, guess you were talking to Ivank.

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You Wank,
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Originally Posted by i-b-deborah (Post 2805446)
We all wank

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Thankyou for your contribution although i hardly see the context; you only need 10 posts to sell and you already have these

silverrcx 22.06.2017 13:42

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Tom is right, however:

(a) this assumes the car is not leased, i.e. you fully own it.
(b) I would recommend a simple contract like the one proposed by TCS or Autoscout24 - this mainly to protect you:
(b1) clearly state there is no warranty from your end (or maybe there still is some from the manufacturer, or something, but clearly not by you)
(b2) establish some paperwork signed by the buyer about the whole affair.

Depending on the canton and the age of the car, it may need to pass inspection before it can be registered to the new owner (using the old grey paper). This is generally paid by the seller in private deals, pros probably manage it themselves.

Then the simplest thing is to hand over car, keys and grey document in exchange for cash. There is also the option to meet in a bank and to do/confirm a transfer from account to account.

In all cases, the plates belong to you, not to the buyer or the vehicle.

aSwissInTheUS 22.06.2017 14:20

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Originally Posted by silverrcx (Post 2805543)
Depending on the canton and the age of the car and time of last inspection, it may need to pass inspection before after it has been registered to the new owner (using the old grey paper). This is generally paid by the sellerbuyer in private deals, pros probably manage it themselves.

Fixed.

Jamiel 12.06.2021 14:54

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Hi all,

I am also selling my vehicle to a interested party in Germany.

I note many posters have mentioned that cash is the default. The buyer wishes to purchase the vehicle and pick it up with a car export company. Does anyone see issues with bank transfer? I have stipulated the vehicle cannot leave until funds are cleared.
Also, Iíve read elsewhere I have to take in grey card to Automobile cantonal before I handover the car, this is in conflict with a comment above saying you hand this over to buyer.

Appreciate the response/help!

James

Jamiel 14.06.2021 14:39

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Originally Posted by st2lemans (Post 2805433)
The buyer gives you money, you give the buyer the keys and the grey card, and you hand in the plates.

Tom

HI Tom

Ive seen separately that you take the grey card into the automobiles dept beforehand, im guessing this is the latter step, right?

Thanks for clarifying

Jaceq 14.06.2021 14:59

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After singing the contract you need to take grey card to Verkehrsamt (or whatever is this called in FR) and cancel it, they will stamp it and in this condition you hand it over to buyer.


Now, selling out of country via export company, and no contact sounds like a scam, be careful.

st2lemans 14.06.2021 15:15

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Originally Posted by Jaceq (Post 3317300)
After singing the contract you need to take grey card AND THE PLATES to Verkehrsamt (or whatever is this called in FR) and cancel it, they will stamp it and in this condition you hand it over to buyer.

FTFY.

Tom

Jamiel 14.06.2021 15:31

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Originally Posted by Jaceq (Post 3317300)
After singing the contract you need to take grey card to Verkehrsamt (or whatever is this called in FR) and cancel it, they will stamp it and in this condition you hand it over to buyer.


Now, selling out of country via export company, and no contact sounds like a scam, be careful.

Im weary to this Jaceq, very. The person on the other side (buyer) has provided me with a contract template, their ID (which is German, with a Russian address) and stipulated that per my condition, the car will not be released until funds are cleared in my account. Ive thought this through and im trying to see the scam angle, if the money is not im my account and verified, I do not release the car, right? Your insights here would be helpful.

k_and_e 14.06.2021 15:52

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Why would someone prefer a bank transfer instead of paying cash when handing over the car? That's the question you should ask yourself.

Jamiel 14.06.2021 17:37

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Thanks K and E

I was basing this on two things:

1. That the size of the cash is risky and prone to additional physical risks
2. Its just as easy to assure physical and bank transfers and I cant foresee any duress I could be put under if the transfer has not occurred.

But I may well be missing something!!

Cheers


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