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Switzerland: how to be rude with "compliments" and "humour"

Apologies in advance for the outburst.
I travel quite a lot for work and wanderlust. I have lived in several countries.
Never, nowhere (like in Switzerland) I have received as reply to my “hi, nice to meet” a “ah, you are Italian! Mafia! Ahahahah”… (their own joke makes them laugh a lot).
(Swiss) People I never met before feel comfortable in calling me “mafia” just because I am from Italy (the South, even worse…). Anywhere else it is pretty much “oh, Italy.. beautiful, I wish to visit this country” or something similar. But here the uncontrollable humour of the locals brings me to new peaks of marvel.
And I have to smile afterwards, instead of replying “oh, Swiss? Bank mafia! Pharma mafia!”, because Swiss are sensitive and get quite hurt by rudeness or bad jokes…
Maybe a book as diplomacy for dummies, "political correctness: first steps to deal with the expats around you" would be a great present for our “hosts”.
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Yes & never answer the question "how are you?" with the actual honest reply. It's "I'm fine & how are you?". If you actually say "crap actually", it doesn't go down well.
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Yes & never answer the question "how are you?" with the actual honest reply. It's "I'm fine & how are you?". If you actually say "crap actually", it doesn't go down well.
Or better still, just don't leave the house..
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And I have to smile afterwards, instead of replying “oh, Swiss? Bank mafia! Pharma mafia!”, because Swiss are sensitive and get quite hurt by rudeness or bad jokes…
Why? It's the only way, those people (might) learn. I always throw stupid rudeness straight back to people's faces.
Yeah okay, some people don't like me but I never felt that was a loss.

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Yes & never answer the question "how are you?" with the actual honest reply. It's "I'm fine & how are you?". If you actually say "crap actually", it doesn't go down well.
Now that is a funny thing to say for an English speaking person. The mistake we (aliens with a different mother-tongue) make most often is answer to your "how do you do?" honestly, as you don't give a monkey's when you ask as that
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Dear OP, if Swiss people upset you, you might want to avoid Walsall for the rest of your life.
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Now that is a funny thing to say for an English speaking person. The mistake we (aliens with a different mother-tongue) make most often is answer to your "how do you do?" honestly, as you don't give a monkey's when you ask as that
In English English, spoken by English people, "How do you do" is a greeting and expects no answer to the question, but still a response ("hi" "how do you do" etc) whereas "How are you?" expects an answer - "Alright thanks, how are you?" etc.
I notice in American English "How are you?" is also considered mostly just a greeting and I rarely see an American answer the question or respond at all.
"Two countries separated by a common language" is the saying.

In Germany, if you ask it, people seemed genuinely shocked that you're enquiring and you often get a "Wow, thanks (for asking) I'm well".

The Swiss, especially outside of the cities, aren't known for being very sophisticated so I wouldn't worry about it. Just rest in the assurance that you're not one of them.
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The Swiss, especially outside of the cities, aren't known for being very sophisticated so I wouldn't worry about it. Just rest in the assurance that you're not one of them.
ROFL, I'd say I am .... and just became a victim of an other generalisation.
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In English English, spoken by English people, "How do you do" is a greeting and expects no answer to the question, but still a response ("hi" "how do you do" etc) whereas "How are you?" expects an answer - "Alright thanks, how are you?" etc.
I notice in American English "How are you?" is also considered mostly just a greeting and I rarely see an American answer the question or respond at all.
"Two countries separated by a common language" is the saying.

In Germany, if you ask it, people seemed genuinely shocked that you're enquiring and you often get a "Wow, thanks (for asking) I'm well".

The Swiss, especially outside of the cities, aren't known for being very sophisticated so I wouldn't worry about it. Just rest in the assurance that you're not one of them.
In American English, if someone asks 'how are you?' the appropriate answer is 'fine, thanks. And you?' even if you are doing so well.

As to the OP, I ask them if they are always so rude. Let us know what they say.
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Re: Switzerland: how to be rude with "compliments" and "humour"

Frenchies love to tell me a French Canadian swear word at the moment they learn of where I'm from.

I usually answer them with a puzzled look on my face:

-Aaaah French? Foie gras!!
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And I have to smile afterwards, instead of replying “oh, Swiss? Bank mafia! Pharma mafia!”, because Swiss are sensitive and get quite hurt by rudeness or bad jokes…
Correct answer is: oh Swiss, Sport, Sepp Blatter, Secret bank accounts and Verdingkinder.
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Correct answer is: oh Swiss, Sport, Sepp Blatter, Secret bank accounts and Verdingkinder.
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Re: Switzerland: how to be rude with "compliments" and "humour"

My brother in law is Swiss and every time we meet, not so often now, he comes up with a way to insult lol.

Last time it was that I pay too little for my hair cut and that he pays way more, and the encounter before, it was my trousers that were too long. All insults with a smile Maybe he feels inferior and want to compete, but I am not really interested. I thought only girls had these things
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Dear OP, if Swiss people upset you, you might want to avoid Walsall for the rest of your life.
Is there a large Swiss ex-pat community in Walsall? You live and learn, eh?
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When we first arrived and MrsG's colleagues learnt that we are an English-Irish couple, they would joke about us fighting all the time.
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What ? Brother in law's ?
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Brother-in-law's what? ;P
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Apologies in advance for the outburst.
I travel quite a lot for work and wanderlust. I have lived in several countries.
Never, nowhere (like in Switzerland) I have received as reply to my “hi, nice to meet” a “ah, you are Italian! Mafia! Ahahahah”… (their own joke makes them laugh a lot).
(Swiss) People I never met before feel comfortable in calling me “mafia” just because I am from Italy (the South, even worse…). Anywhere else it is pretty much “oh, Italy.. beautiful, I wish to visit this country” or something similar. But here the uncontrollable humour of the locals brings me to new peaks of marvel.
And I have to smile afterwards, instead of replying “oh, Swiss? Bank mafia! Pharma mafia!”, because Swiss are sensitive and get quite hurt by rudeness or bad jokes…
Maybe a book as diplomacy for dummies, "political correctness: first steps to deal with the expats around you" would be a great present for our “hosts”.
it's that or "lasciatemi cantare...."
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When we first arrived and MrsG's colleagues learnt that we are an English-Irish couple, they would joke about us fighting all the time.
That and people assuming that if you're Irish then you must be a member of the IRA, and from the north... as though the six counties was the entire country.

I usually ask if they'd like hear the history of my country from the time the English first invaded in the 15the century onwards.
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Or better still, just don't leave the house..
Needy doesn't go out anyway, too worried someone she meets will hit someone else's child.
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