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Re: Are you a expat or a ???????

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Are there really many who don't bother getting citizens beyond that? Third generation?
The next national voting will be, among other things, on facilitated naturalisation for 3rd generation secondos

Half the resident foreigners qualify for naturalisation, only about 40 thousand apply each year.
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Old 03.01.2017, 15:48
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I do not think that within Europe the lines are as clear as they used to be - I know several well educated and successful business folks who decided to become expats in the "poorer" part of the continent. But the bottom line is clear: If I'd take on a job in London would I not do so with the plan to settle down there. I'd stay for some years, make some money, spend some more and enjoy the experience.
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Yep...and the reverse is also true- a lot of people from the poorer part move to richer countries with the intention of working for a few years, save some money and return back home. Then they get caught up in their new life (especially if they have a family in the new country, kids going to school there etc), one year becomes three years, which become 5 and so on. From this point of view, the existence of EU has made a lot of things simpler....and fairer.

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Depends. Within the EU this is not unusual amongst EU citizens as citizenship of their host countries would afford them little or nothing.

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I'm English.......therefore whatever country i am visiting/living..........everyone else is foreigner.

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Old 03.01.2017, 16:53
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So, tell me about all these multinational corporations with offices in Leicester and Stoke. I'm dying to hear all about them!
Not wishing to nit pick, but one of my oldest school friends moved to Leicester when she graduated, and has worked in many countries, particularly China. If you look at companies such as Next and CAT have their head office in Leicester.

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I'm English.......therefore whatever country i am visiting/living..........everyone else is foreigner.
Does that include Scotland, Wales, and NI?

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Old 03.01.2017, 17:14
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I'm English.......therefore whatever country i am visiting/living..........everyone else is foreigner.

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Yep, I read a whole book about that once.
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De Montfort Uni is also possibly the largest Uni- with 1000s of foreign students. We used to host their PhDs from all over the world, and often the Deans of Unis linked to DM. With strong links to Leicester Medical School, we also met a lot of their medical students and doctors, as well as Profs- from all over the world. The local Swiss company, that made the best knitting machines in the world for the textile industry - also employed many Europeans, quite a lot of Swiss indeed. One of my neighbours from the next village from me had married a Brit doing his apprenticeship at Dubied - and I used to ahve coffee with her and her other Swiss friends regularly (she was of my parents' generation).
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Old 03.01.2017, 17:21
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De Montfort Uni is also possibly the largest Uni- with 1000s of foreign students. We used to host their PhDs from all over the world, and often the Deans of Unis linked to DM. With strong links to Leicester Medical School, we also met a lot of their medical students and doctors, as well as Profs- from all over the world.
But were they expats, or immigrants?

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Old 03.01.2017, 17:31
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But were they expats, or immigrants?

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She had coffee with them, they were immigrants. Which expat would drink English coffee?
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Interesting question. We hosted a PhD from Bulgaria (several in fact over the years- as well as Rumania, Czech Rep and ex DDR)- and she had to go to the Immigration Office several times- and always came back incensed that those 'bloody immigrants' (from the Indian sub Continent) were treated 'better than her', when she was a Doctor of Science and should have got priority!?!

We also had residential French students from Nice who couldn't believe how well Indians were accepted - and how they felt very superior to the Indians they met- most of them 2nd, 3rd generation Biritish of course. Only found out later their father was the leader of the National Front for Nice.
We hosted Swiss, German and French assistants and students, and had several Au Pairs from a variety of countries, etc, etc.

But we digress- all this is irrelevant anyhow- but since it was mentionned
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Does that include Scotland, Wales, and NI?

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For me, it includes Warrington, St Helens, Runcorn, Bolton, Preston and don't even start me on Leigh! Also, anywhere that has a pub like 'The Slaughtered Lamb'. Exceptions are made for Manchester, Liverpool, Edinburgh, Leeds and Sheffield based upon familiarity. Proper foreign is anywhere south of Oxford.

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No such thing.
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She had coffee with them, they were immigrants. Which expat would drink English coffee?
Well no, actually, since you ask
For coffee we went to a small Italian coffee shop that served great ... Italian coffee... still there btw. Which reminds me, there were loads of ... Italians there- but they were used to consider themselves immigrants. Great ice-cream too (Bruccianis).

But I just have to laugh- it's the first time I've ever been told there aren't enough immigrants in Leicester ...

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Re: Are you a expat or a ???????

Whatever you call yourself - immigrant or expat it's not important (does anyone take this thing so seriously? I'm fine with both terms, I couldn't care less). The locals will see you as foreigner...and probably for a few good generations, at that.
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Whatever you call yourself - immigrant or expat it's not important (does anyone take this thing so seriously?). The locals will see you as foreigner...and probably for a few good generations, at that.
Doesn't bother me in the slightest. Even if I get a Swiss passport, I can't recreate 50-odd years of being Swiss with all the shared experience that entails.

It's one thing being able to name all the cantonal capitals, quite another to have sung for Samichlaus, bought eggs from the Migros van and smoked cigarettes in the light of the bonfire at the age of eight.

People aren't stupid. I'll always be a foreigner, no matter how good I get at Jass.

True integration, we hope, starts with the next generation.
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But they got a term for that too - secundo...
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Starts with the next generation. That's all we can hope for.
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