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A desperate plea for a last minute work experience in engineering.

OK, this is now getting very stressful: McTAVGE Junior is in his 4th year at the University of Edinburgh, completing his Masters in Engineering, specialising in renewable energy. He still has got no placement for his 6 months' internship in the workplace, despite the dozens of applications sent across Europe. We just don't have the right connections!


If he does not start by the end of February latest, he can say good bye to his Masters. PLEASE, PLEASE, if you think you can help, anyone, CV and letter available both in English and French (he is trilingual English/French/German, but his mother tongue remains English).
Must be in engineering and there must be some mechanical engineering involved, ideally in renewable energy.


Please pass on. He is even prepared to stay in Switzerland with his parents rather than go back to Scotland, if that's where the work experience is to take place, which shows how dire the situation is! A desperate Dad. Thanks!
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Old 15.01.2017, 22:32
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Re: A desperate plea for a last minute work experience in engineering.

Stupid question but what does he want to do? I am obviously ignorant and have no idea what kind of internship he is looking for?

I have a friend who works with Eon, but that is more in the area of lean management. Would that be of interest to him?
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Stupid question but what does he want to do? I am obviously ignorant and have no idea what kind of internship he is looking for?

I have a friend who works with Eon, but that is more in the area of lean management. Would that be of interest to him?


His specialisation is renewable energy and storage of energy, but his work placement must involve some degree of mechanical engineering. He wants to get his hands dirty, is quite flexible and a nice, hard working lad. I cannot believe his Masters is in jeopardy, simply because the company that had offered to take him and a few others cancelled all internship offers just before Xmas.
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Re: A desperate plea for a last minute work experience in engineering.

McTavge, I am going to send you a PM.
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Re: A desperate plea for a last minute work experience in engineering.

What a mobilisation at this last hour! EF, you rock! For the first time there is hope again, thank you!
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Re: A desperate plea for a last minute work experience in engineering.

Not sure if we have any places for internships but will send you a pm
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Same Story different Person :(

Dear EF members,

i am also faced with the same circumstances, did my Double Engineering in Electrical and Renewable Energy, however i am unable to continue due to not getting placement for any Internship, i have sent out multiples of application across Europe, unfortunately having no connections does not help the situation.

I have my CV in English and German, i am desperate so i can continue my studies in masters.
I have specialized in Renewable energy efficiency, i am extremely desperate for an internship at this rate i will be happy to get anything very flexible.

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Re: A desperate plea for a last minute work experience in engineering.

In case you don't know this website, here is the internship section...

http://www.students.ch/jobs/stellenmarkt/internships

And obviously: If junior is willing to relocate (with his situation...): There are about 5000 internship openings in Germany at first sight, several hundred in every sort of engineering:

https://www.stepstone.de/5/ergebnisl...2Fin&ws=&ra=30
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Please pass on. He is even prepared to stay in Switzerland with his parents rather than go back to Scotland, if that's where the work experience is to take place, which shows how dire the situation is! A desperate Dad. Thanks!
When he sees how much interns are paid in Switzerland vs. elsewhere, he'll be very glad he made this decision. At least where I work, our internships pay better than many entry-level professional jobs in the UK. If you're not paying rent, you can save up a pretty big beer fund while you're working...
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Re: Same Story different Person :(

Join the queue! I empathise, though, seeing how my son has worked non-stop so hard for 4 years and passed all his exams, to see it all jeopardised because of not finding a placement. Seems so unfair.


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Dear EF members,

i am also faced with the same circumstances, did my Double Engineering in Electrical and Renewable Energy, however i am unable to continue due to not getting placement for any Internship, i have sent out multiples of application across Europe, unfortunately having no connections does not help the situation.

I have my CV in English and German, i am desperate so i can continue my studies in masters.
I have specialized in Renewable energy efficiency, i am extremely desperate for an internship at this rate i will be happy to get anything very flexible.

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Join the queue! I empathise, though, seeing how my son has worked non-stop so hard for 4 years and passed all his exams, to see it all jeopardised because of not finding a placement. Seems so unfair.


Dunno... not what you want to hear in your situation, but: The internship was taken pretty seriously in my school as well and we were repeatedly told so WAY in advance. I did not have the connections either, but then wrote one application after another - which was one of the best trainings for later in life... (and my parents would not go online to try to arrange me an interview but rather tell me off for not trying hard enought to find one on my own.)


A typical Swiss or German company will line up interns about 6 months in advance. So honestly:
1. The only chance is to call up companies and ask directly, the time for blind application emails is over... Don't be picky, at this point anything that ticks the boxes for the school is good enough. And make sure he makes the calls himself...


2. Maybe go to the local university and have a look at the blackboards if something is advertised the traditional way.


3. And of course get in touch with the university telling them NOW that you are having trouble finding something. All professors have some contacts and if a student can show that he actually tried but wasn't lucky might they be willing to help out. I cannot believe they'd just kick him out. Even my rather stringent school would not let me graduate without but in the worst case put me one year back if I do not meet the required internship time or something... I am sure there is some sort of plan b in the drawer and they might not mention it till the students truly panic to find something...
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Dunno... not what you want to hear in your situation, but: The internship was taken pretty seriously in my school as well and we were repeatedly told so WAY in advance. I did not have the connections either, but then wrote one application after another - which was one of the best trainings for later in life... (and my parents would not go online to try to arrange me an interview but rather tell me off for not trying hard enought to find one on my own.)


A typical Swiss or German company will line up interns about 6 months in advance. So honestly:
1. The only chance is to call up companies and ask directly, the time for blind application emails is over... Don't be picky, at this point anything that ticks the boxes for the school is good enough. And make sure he makes the calls himself...


2. Maybe go to the local university and have a look at the blackboards if something is advertised the traditional way.


3. And of course get in touch with the university telling them NOW that you are having trouble finding something. All professors have some contacts and if a student can show that he actually tried but wasn't lucky might they be willing to help out. I cannot believe they'd just kick him out. Even my rather stringent school would not let me graduate without but in the worst case put me one year back if I do not meet the required internship time or something... I am sure there is some sort of plan b in the drawer and they might not mention it till the students truly panic to find something...
That's a little harsh; if you'd read the original post properly then you'd have realised that McTAVGE's son did had an internship lined up.... And that "WAY in advance" as you put it. But due to circumstances beyond the lad's control that fell through just before Christmas. Hence McTAVGE asking if by any chance someone here could help.
I very much doubt that's the only avenue being explored, and would be very surprised if the university wasn't also looking for replacement places.
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That's a little harsh; if you'd read the original post properly then you'd have realised that McTAVGE's son did had an internship lined up.... And that "WAY in advance" as you put it. But due to circumstances beyond the lad's control that fell through just before Christmas. Hence McTAVGE asking if by any chance someone here could help.
I very much doubt that's the only avenue being explored, and would be very surprised if the university wasn't also looking for replacement places.
And that's why I am gladly helping. And it's also why I don't think the university would let him fail for this...
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A typical Swiss or German company will line up interns about 6 months in advance....
Depends - at a minimum certainly not universal. I know we have several interns around me recruited just 1 or 2 months in advance. Can't help the OP I'm afraid as we're not in that business...
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When he sees how much interns are paid in Switzerland vs. elsewhere, he'll be very glad he made this decision. At least where I work, our internships pay better than many entry-level professional jobs in the UK. If you're not paying rent, you can save up a pretty big beer fund while you're working...
If McTavge Junior has been let down on his internship last minute, doubt that pay is first priority, but a good and structured internship. Wish I could help, but have no possibility in that area.

Fingers crossed that he finds something.
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OK, this is now getting very stressful: McTAVGE Junior is in his 4th year at the University of Edinburgh, completing his Masters in Engineering, specialising in renewable energy. He still has got no placement for his 6 months' internship in the workplace, despite the dozens of applications sent across Europe. We just don't have the right connections!


If he does not start by the end of February latest, he can say good bye to his Masters. PLEASE, PLEASE, if you think you can help, anyone, CV and letter available both in English and French (he is trilingual English/French/German, but his mother tongue remains English).
Must be in engineering and there must be some mechanical engineering involved, ideally in renewable energy.


Please pass on. He is even prepared to stay in Switzerland with his parents rather than go back to Scotland, if that's where the work experience is to take place, which shows how dire the situation is! A desperate Dad. Thanks!
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That's a little harsh; if you'd read the original post properly then you'd have realised that McTAVGE's son did had an internship lined up.... And that "WAY in advance" as you put it. But due to circumstances beyond the lad's control that fell through just before Christmas. Hence McTAVGE asking if by any chance someone here could help.
I very much doubt that's the only avenue being explored, and would be very surprised if the university wasn't also looking for replacement places.
I may be being a little bit thick here but I have read the original post properly multiple times and I can't see anywhere that it says that he was let down at the last minute.


Edit: ok that little bit of info was tacked on the end of a subsequent post and was quite easy to miss,
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I may be being a little bit thick here but I have read the original post properly multiple times and I can't see anywhere that it says that he was let down at the last minute.
Apologies; McTAVGE does say it, but in post #3, not 1.
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Re: A desperate plea for a last minute work experience in engineering.

Sorry that I can't help with anything specific but he should have a look at all of the companies located at the Science Park of the EPFL (Lausanne). He might find something there. These are mostly start-up companies so he might be able to get work but getting $$ will be much more difficult. Good luck in any event.

Here is the company list.

https://www.epfl-innovationpark.ch/community/companies/
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Dunno... not what you want to hear in your situation, but: The internship was taken pretty seriously in my school as well and we were repeatedly told so WAY in advance. I did not have the connections either, but then wrote one application after another - which was one of the best trainings for later in life... (and my parents would not go online to try to arrange me an interview but rather tell me off for not trying hard enought to find one on my own.)


A typical Swiss or German company will line up interns about 6 months in advance. So honestly:
1. The only chance is to call up companies and ask directly, the time for blind application emails is over... Don't be picky, at this point anything that ticks the boxes for the school is good enough. And make sure he makes the calls himself...


2. Maybe go to the local university and have a look at the blackboards if something is advertised the traditional way.


3. And of course get in touch with the university telling them NOW that you are having trouble finding something. All professors have some contacts and if a student can show that he actually tried but wasn't lucky might they be willing to help out. I cannot believe they'd just kick him out. Even my rather stringent school would not let me graduate without but in the worst case put me one year back if I do not meet the required internship time or something... I am sure there is some sort of plan b in the drawer and they might not mention it till the students truly panic to find something...

He DID apply last Summer and got a placement...only the company pulled out all its internship offers in December, just before Xmas! He has been in touch with his university and apparently there are a dozen of them in the same situation, so as you can see, it's not through lack of trying. He has done 50 applications between him finding out internships were being cancelled and today, while coping and helping us with a house move. I would say he is pretty sorted and I see nothing wrong with trying to help your boy when you see it's getting nowhere.
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If McTavge Junior has been let down on his internship last minute, doubt that pay is first priority, but a good and structured internship. Wish I could help, but have no possibility in that area.

Fingers crossed that he finds something.


He's definitely not after any money, but exactly what you have described. As you said, fingers and everything else crossed!
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