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Doesn't matter. Both can be Freemasons.
Umm, no.

"Regular Freemasonry insists that a volume of scripture is open in a working lodge, that every member profess belief in a Deity, that no women are admitted, and that the discussion of religion and politics is banned."

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Furthermore, were you to be employed the employer would need to show that there is no local or EU/EEA citizen available to take the position. This is particularly difficult in your case given the large number of masons or orangemen seen marching every 12th of July.
OP is Portuguese
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Furthermore, were you to be employed the employer would need to show that there is no local or EU/EEA citizen available to take the position.
As OP is an EU citizen, this does NOT apply.

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Old 11.02.2017, 16:41
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As OP is an EU citizen, this does NOT apply.

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Guess he can build as many walls and related structures to his hearts content then, subject to local planning laws of course
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So are you in the Aus freemasons or not? If you are then they may help you transfer, if you are not then it's likely that you are not 'important' enough in your own country to be inducted, and it is therefore VERY unlikely you will be considered important enough somewhere else as a foreigner.
BTW. You don't ask to join the masons, they ask you to join.
Actually no, not these days, these days they run after members like a dog would a tree in a desert. Itīs no longer like the old days, now the FMīs have a problem of members dying off faster than they can be replaced, look for the bumperstickers: "Support your local 6/13!
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Umm, no.

"Regular Freemasonry insists that a volume of scripture is open in a working lodge, that every member profess belief in a Deity, that no women are admitted, and that the discussion of religion and politics is banned."

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There are women-only lodges, Maria orden has 66 lodges, represented in Norway, Sweden and Finland, Germany, Denmark and Iceland.

Freemasons is probably one of the few places men gladly wear the apron and white cleaning gloves
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And the say they are practicing the Craft, not on Etsy
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Guess he can build as many walls and related structures to his hearts content then, subject to local planning laws of course
I can't tell ifrom you're being sarcastic or not...
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Umm, no.

"Regular Freemasonry insists that a volume of scripture is open in a working lodge, that every member profess belief in a Deity, that no women are admitted, and that the discussion of religion and politics is banned."

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There are several women's Masonic Lodges throughout the world.


The Grand Loge Feminine de Suisse was founded in 1976, thus celebrated 40 years existence last year. It comprises about 400 members.
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There are several women's Masonic Lodges throughout the world.


The Grand Loge Feminine de Suisse was founded in 1976, thus celebrated 40 years existence last year. It comprises about 400 members.
They're called The Order of the Something or other aren't they? East? Star? I honestly can't be bothered to google it. I know there's a kind of holiday/retirement home (or was) for lady masons Blackpool way in the UK.
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I honestly can't be bothered to google it.
The 'Toilet Cistern' thread offers a much better alternative (both from subject matter as well as input)
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Umm, no.

"Regular Freemasonry insists that a volume of scripture is open in a working lodge, that every member profess belief in a Deity, that no women are admitted, and that the discussion of religion and politics is banned."

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Then tell me why there are at least 3 mixed lodges in the UK and one in Switzerland?
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They're called The Order of the Something or other aren't they? East? Star? I honestly can't be bothered to google it. I know there's a kind of holiday/retirement home (or was) for lady masons Blackpool way in the UK.
There was a group in a neighboring town when I was growing up. Order of the Eastern Star.
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Re: any Freemasons on the Forums?

Most people become masons in their home country, and when they move they get a letter of introduction from their home lodge, but you have to be a master mason to get this. The letter allows you to visit the lodge in another country, without you de-mitting from your home lodge.
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Most people become masons in their home country, and when they move they get a letter of introduction from their home lodge, but you have to be a master mason to get this.
Do they do a status match from M&M Senator? Gets me lounge access pretty much anywhere.
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Then tell me why there are at least 3 mixed lodges in the UK and one in Switzerland?
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If you are Catholic - maybe speak with the ROAB - http://www.raob.org.uk about starting up a Swiss branch. ("Royal Antediluvian Order of the Buffaloes" - Catholic version of the Freemasons- ish) (I will join)

I used to deliver beer to the BUFFs (ROAB) club and the Masons club (lodge) in north Lancashire when I was very young (weekend job with my brother) - much more fun in the Buffs. (we got free beer at 14)
(and more women when we went down at 16) - the dodgy EYE over the "alter" got to me in the Masons - reminded me of Lord of the rings which I had just read - but they drank more beer than the Catholics - based on the empty crates we collected. (but less Benedictine Brandy than the Catholics)

Less dodgy hand shaking in the Buffs and I don't think I ever met many people who actually built walls - very social and good at funerals and weddings - my fathers especially - over 40 people in the house giving a nice sombre send off finished by a 20 year old malt. (from both the Masons and the Buffs - he was a bit of a diplomat) My mother always wondered where he went to on the long walks at night - I think the Knights of St Columba were there also. (another religious beer club)

I have read a lot about the history of the Freemasonry background - very interesting - Egypt - thru to almost Trump.

I remember later on in my life (25) when I had a full time driver who told me he would sell me the secrets of the handshakes, protocols etc - introduce me (I was catholic and had married a protestant girl in a closed village) - just so that I could get more entrenched into a Lodge into this village I lived (in West Lothian Scotland) - he was skint and high up in the Lodge in our village - I could not be bothered - and also was worried. If you can buy your way in, then it is not a club for me. Maybe I met the wrong person?
Moved away a year later.

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If you are Catholic - maybe speak with the ROAB - http://www.raob.org.uk about starting up a Swiss branch. ("Royal Antediluvian Order of the Buffaloes" - Catholic version of the Freemasons- ish) (I will join)

I used to deliver beer to the BUFFs (ROAB) club and the Masons club (lodge) in north Lancashire when I was very young (weekend job with my brother) - much more fun in the Buffs. (we got free beer at 14)
(and more women when we went down at 16) - the dodgy EYE over the "alter" got to me in the Masons - reminded me of Lord of the rings which I had just read - but they drank more beer than the Catholics - based on the empty crates we collected. (but less Benedictine Brandy than the Catholics)

Less dodgy hand shaking in the Buffs and I don't think I ever met many people who actually built walls - very social and good at funerals and weddings - my fathers especially - over 40 people in the house giving a nice sombre send off finished by a 20 year old malt. (from both the Masons and the Buffs - he was a bit of a diplomat) My mother always wondered where he went to on the long walks at night - I think the Knights of St Columba were there also. (another religious beer club)

I have read a lot about the history of the Freemasonry background - very interesting - Egypt - thru to almost Trump.

I remember later on in my life (25) when I had a full time driver who told me he would sell me the secrets of the handshakes, protocols etc - introduce me (I was catholic and had married a protestant girl in a closed village) - just so that I could get more entrenched into a Lodge into this village I lived (in West Lothian Scotland) - he was skint and high up in the Lodge in our village - I could not be bothered - and also was worried. If you can buy your way in, then it is not a club for me. Maybe I met the wrong person?
Moved away a year later.
My father was a a member of the Buffs, and he certainly wasn't a Catholic (although he married one). He was born a Methodist but was very lapsed. The Buffalos have no religious affiliation, and discussion of religion and politics is specifically banned.
No idea what secrets your 'driver' was offering to sell on, but they certainly wouldn't have helped gain entry to what was to all intents send purposes a glorified drinking club!
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All fake.

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Personal knowledge says otherwise.
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My father was a a member of the Buffs, and he certainly wasn't a Catholic (although he married one). He was born a Methodist but was very lapsed. The Buffalos have no religious affiliation, and discussion of religion and politics is specifically banned.
No idea what secrets your 'driver' was offering to sell on, but they certainly wouldn't have helped gain entry to what was to all intents send purposes a glorified drinking club!
It was probably just the way the Buffs membership panned out in our town - a lot of the people I saw there also went to the catholic church (in the days when churches were full). Also the beer was cheap.

In Scotland - I had lost my license for 6 months and had to pay this guy to drive me around for my job. From our conversations, I also think that I would not have gleaned too much for my money. Got a short guided tour of the Lodge once - I think he was just trying to prove his connections or standing. This one seemed more serious than the Masons from my childhood - more sober. (another reason not to get involved)
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