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11.06.2018, 15:35
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I am very interested in Swiss Masonry but i don't speak Swiss German Very Well. If any brothers are here on the forum can you please guide me.
I want to join a lodge that speaks English or has a English emulation rituals.
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11.06.2018, 18:05
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What! All the way from Western Oz. Bit far to commute for meetings isn't it? And it could be Swiss French or Swiss Italian too, depending on what part of the country.
Welcome to the forum. 
Easiest as usual, is to google and you'll come up with this. https://freimaurerei.ch/en/ |
11.06.2018, 18:14
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This?
Best contact them directly?
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11.06.2018, 18:27
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This one, in Geneva, is English Speaking. http://www.masonryuniversal.org
They will likely be able to help you with other lodges that speak English.
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11.06.2018, 18:32
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11.06.2018, 19:04
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Mind you, it's time they updated all their blurbs around the world. They've had mixed lodges for decades. Given all the gender equality floating around it would make sense to state this. Not many in number, but they do exist.
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07.08.2020, 13:09
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| Quote: | | | | | Mind you, it's time they updated all their blurbs around the world. They've had mixed lodges for decades. Given all the gender equality floating around it would make sense to state this. Not many in number, but they do exist. | | | | | Only in France are they mixed, not in the UK or CH.
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07.08.2020, 13:27
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| Quote: | | | | | illumination is what Freemasonry is.. | | | | | No, not at all.
Illuminati is what you get when you have chemtrails and 5G at the same time.
Time to stock up on the tinfoil. Toilet paper is totally overvalued.
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07.08.2020, 13:40
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| Quote: | | | | | Then tell me why there are at least 3 mixed lodges in the UK and one in Switzerland? | | | | | No there aren't....there is not a single 'mixed' lodge in the UK. So to quote your later post, ' you know from personal experience'.....l don't think so.
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07.08.2020, 14:23
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A lodge = a spielgruppe for people with inferiority complex?!
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07.08.2020, 16:43
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| Quote: | | | | | Only in France are they mixed, not in the UK or CH. | | | | | Incorrect, my husband belonged to a mixed lodge in the UK for years before we moved here - and that move was over 20 years ago.
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08.08.2020, 15:56
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| Quote: | | | | | Incorrect, my husband belonged to a mixed lodge in the UK for years before we moved here - and that move was over 20 years ago. | | | | | Then it won't be recognised by UGLE ( United Grand Lodge of England) of which all Freemason Lodges are members.. They are either all male or all female, not mixed...doesn't mean to say the don't meet out of Lodge for social reasons, but those are the rules.
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08.08.2020, 16:01
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| Quote: | | | | | Then it won't be recognised by UGLE ( United Grand Lodge of England) of which all Freemason Lodges are members.. They are either all male or all female, not mixed...doesn't mean to say the don't meet out of Lodge for social reasons, but those are the rules. | | | | | Sorry, but wrong again. Husband had his ceremony at the Grand Lodge in London many years ago when he was part of a mixed lodge.
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08.08.2020, 16:05
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| Quote: | | | | | Sorry, but wrong again. Husband had his ceremony at the Grand Lodge in London many years ago when he was part of a mixed lodge. | | | | | Lets just agree to disagree ok
But here straight from UGLE web page.
Women Freemasons have two separate Grand Lodges.
For more information, please contact Freemasonry for Women and the Order of Women Freemasons [OWF].
In 2018, in line with the Gender Recognition Act of 2004 and the Equality Act of 2010, UGLE published its gender reassignment policy. The policy outlines that a candidate for admission to Freemasonry under UGLE must be a man. Should a person who has undergone gender reassignment and has become a man apply to become a Freemason then his application must be processed in the same way as for any other male candidate. A Freemason who after initiation ceases to be a man does not cease to be a Freemason.
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08.08.2020, 16:34
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I'm surprised they're allowed to get away with that in this day and age. Isn't there a law against men only institutions?
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08.08.2020, 16:52
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I believe that is for the UK, not for Switzerland.
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08.08.2020, 18:21
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| Quote: | | | | | I believe that is for the UK, not for Switzerland. | | | | | I'm talking about the UK.
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08.08.2020, 22:15
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| Quote: | | | | | I'm surprised they're allowed to get away with that in this day and age. Isn't there a law against men only institutions? | | | | | No!
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08.08.2020, 22:17
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| Quote: | | | | | I believe that is for the UK, not for Switzerland. | | | | | Switzerland is the same....men only institutions exist as do female only institutions...nothing wrong with that.
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08.08.2020, 22:58
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| Quote: | | | | | I'm surprised they're allowed to get away with that in this day and age. Isn't there a law against men only institutions? | | | | | No of course not. https://www.equalityhumanrights.com/...ip-association
Whilst discrimination against women is completely unacceptable there's nothing wrong with a man only social space in the same way there's nothing wrong with a women only social space. Sometimes we just want time with the "boys" just like women like time with the "girls". Not all women's only social clubs are set to avoid unwanted sexual attention or violence etc. many are just social.
Of course there are many instances where excluding women is not acceptable or justified.
However, the idea of an outright ban on same sex social gathering is frankly chilling to anyone who believes in the notion of freedom. Are we going to arrest the old blokes pub group because they aren't inviting their wives?
Similarly you are allowed to restrict social groups to a particular nationality (eg British), but not skin colour. All this is completely logical and reasonable.
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