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Old 23.02.2017, 11:52
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You sure know how to pi$$ Billag off.
I don't think Billag sent any junk mail? Just bills, which are tempting to send back but I would have missed the GBBO if they'd switched off my telly...
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Old 23.02.2017, 12:08
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Re: My address was sold for marketing purposes...

The best ones are those that include "postage paid" return envelopes - into which you put some scrap (heavy) metal - and then post it back to them.
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Old 23.02.2017, 12:12
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The best ones are those that include "postage paid" return envelopes - into which you put some scrap (heavy) metal - and then post it back to them.
Or I borrow some washing powder from my great aunt, Anne Thracks.
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Old 23.02.2017, 13:43
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It was a bit of a sledgehammer approach but for me it worked: I made a sustained effort over about 6 months to return every single bit of unsolicited mail by putting a single marker pen swipe through my name/address on the envelope and writing "refusé" on the envelope and dropping it back into the post box. It must have been a couple of hundred or more pieces of junk mail. Every piddly thing.

Presumably the post office delivered it back to the originating address shown on the back of the envelope or elsewhere on the packaging. No idea if they then had to pay for the return postage.

The upshot was that I very rarely receive junk mail now.

It's not very scientific as my research group consists of just me but it was actually thanks to a tip I picked up on EF years ago.

I know it doesn't solve the problem you have of your address going through all these marketing companies but maybe if you are a "serial returner" of mail they might scratch you from the list.
This used to work - I did it all the time - and the sender had to pay postage for the return mail. I was recently told that the post doesn't return it anymore
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Re: My address was sold for marketing purposes...

Unfortunately the "Refusé" thing no longer works. Probably. According to a 13-year-old article by the Kassensturz Caritas and Krebshilfe are mong those who have the Post destroy returned mail, by which they avoid the punitive postage.

What you can do is send the letter back in an additional envelope without address and stamp. The issue for the recipient will be the administrative effort because he'll probably also refuse accepting the letter but that won't tell them that you don't want anything sent to you. Probably the only way to that end is to contact the sender directly.

If you order them to delete your data they can reasonably claim later on that they didn't know you don't want their ads. So it's often better to demand that a) anything but your Listendaten be deleted and b) what remains is marked with "doesn't want any promotions" and c) that your data must not be sold or given or rented to anybody else. You should also demand who they gave your data to, if any, so you can contact those as well.
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Re: My address was sold for marketing purposes...

This is an increasing problem. Somehow, marketers not only have our home phone number, but now they have my mobile number. All I do is hang up or continue speaking in English which normally they hang up.
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This is an increasing problem. Somehow, marketers not only have our home phone number, but now they have my mobile number. All I do is hang up or continue speaking in English which normally they hang up.
There is a solution: Lenny. Truly hilarious set of canned responses designed to troll the telemarketers. In my opinion, this is art.

Youtube Lenny playlist
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Re: My address was sold for marketing purposes...

Some charity (don't remember which one) plagued us for many years, sending us unsolicited goods (ok fairly normal), but then sending us insistent and threatening reminders when we didn't pay. After a time, I started sending the goods back un-opened, with the address crossed out and the remark "retour à l'expéditeur" on the envelope. After 3 or 4 years, they seems to have gotten the message.
In terms of selling addresses, one of the issues is that even the local authorities sell the addresses on.
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Some charity (don't remember which one) plagued us for many years, sending us unsolicited goods (ok fairly normal), but then sending us insistent and threatening reminders when we didn't pay. After a time, I started sending the goods back un-opened, with the address crossed out and the remark "retour à l'expéditeur" on the envelope. After 3 or 4 years, they seems to have gotten the message.
In terms of selling addresses, one of the issues is that even the local authorities sell the addresses on.
In case this happens to anyone else, OR Article 6 states that you do not need to pay for things that you receive without having ordered them. You don't even have to return them, the law considers that no contract was entered into and therefore you have no obligation to pay or do anything else with the goods. Charities often play on you feeling guilty about taking something from a charity for free but it is their choice to send stuff. I really hope they learn that this is just wasting valuable resources long-term, as I think younger generations don't share the same view of what is the right thing to do as some of the older folks. Quite a few grandparents of friends have done things like pay invoices without questioning whether they actually owed the money, simply because "one pays all one's debts as quickly as possible".

I also get post from charities (you give to one and, hey presto, they all want a piece) but I simply ignore them. I give to the REGA, the paraplegic centre in Nottwil, to Beat Richner's children's hospital because my gran was a huge supporter, but that's it when it comes to "corporate" charities.

What I'm curious about is this event called Sip&Shop that keeps sending me emails, with the person sending them referring to how great it was to meet me? Except I've never been to a Sip&Shop event? Weird.
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Re: My address was sold for marketing purposes...

Since Swisscom brought in their Spam and Scam control I have absolutely no more from these calls. Before we had sometimes 10 a day
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This is an increasing problem. Somehow, marketers not only have our home phone number, but now they have my mobile number. All I do is hang up or continue speaking in English which normally they hang up.
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