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You are owed money in Switzerland

I recently sold a campingcar on Richardo, it was a wreck, i started the bidding at chf100 with a buy now price of chf3000

It got 41 bids upto chf1000 then a guy/business (not too sure) bid the chf3000.

He came to view and tried to knock the price, it was New Years day and I waited in the snow for him so decided that because he knocked out all other bidders he should pay the full amount, as a gesture of goodwill I said give me chf2900 because he had a new baby in the car.

He started to be an asshole and kept knocking the deal, I told him that he was the buyer the thing was his and that because it was parked on a 3rd party piece of land there would be a chf50 a day to park it, he said Ill see you in court!!!!

Being a foreigner in Switzerland, which he mentioned more than once, he said I didnt have a chance!

I went to the debt collection office and oinned the debt on him, i paid the money they wanted and got receipt.

What happens next...? Anyone....?
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I recently sold a campingcar on Richardo, it was a wreck, i started the bidding at chf100 with a buy now price of chf3000

It got 41 bids upto chf1000 then a guy/business (not too sure) bid the chf3000.

He came to view and tried to knock the price, it was New Years day and I waited in the snow for him so decided that because he knocked out all other bidders he should pay the full amount, as a gesture of goodwill I said give me chf2900 because he had a new baby in the car.

He started to be an asshole and kept knocking the deal, I told him that he was the buyer the thing was his and that because it was parked on a 3rd party piece of land there would be a chf50 a day to park it, he said Ill see you in court!!!!

Being a foreigner in Switzerland, which he mentioned more than once, he said I didnt have a chance!

I went to the debt collection office and oinned the debt on him, i paid the money they wanted and got receipt.

What happens next...? Anyone....?
Not sure you can do anything apart from inform Ricardo who will maybe blacklist him for being a dick.

Otherwise, contact the next person on the bid list and cut your losses.
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No, but I might learn something from both posts?
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Otherwise, contact the next person on the bid list and cut your losses.
I contacted Richardo and their contract when bidding is very clear, they say in a court its very difficult to defeat..

I will be awarded Im confident, Im just wondering will it go to court or not, will I need a translator etc?

I did ot many times in the UK but not here
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I contacted Richardo and their contract when bidding is very clear, they say in a court its very difficult to defeat..

I will be awarded Im confident, Im just wondering will it go to court or not, will I need a translator etc?

I did ot many times in the UK but not here
You mean you have taken non-paying bidders to court many times in the UK? You mean for online auction sites such as Ebay?
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No but i have put in CCJs for non payment in the UK, not for any auction contract, many for non payment of rent.
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It's happened before and it looks like the buyer can walk away.

An auction site is not the same as recouping unpaid bills such as rent.

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Sorry, but you have no rights. Neither you nor anyone else can force the highest bidder to pay if they change their mind.

Ricardo has a procedure for flagging up non-paying buyers. It's available for 16 days after the end of the auction. I think that this probably entitles you not to pay the Ricardo charges. If you're within the 16 days, use that. Otherwise the only possibility is to leave negative feedback for the buyer.
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It's happened before and it looks like the buyer can walk away.

An auction site is not the same as recouping unpaid bills such as rent.

Yes I know, that s why Im asking what the process is Sandgrounder, the papers are in, I just wish to know what happens next?

Do they pay? If not is there a further process of using high court bailiffs or the Swiss equilvent, which, as far as I know are the police?
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Yes I know, that s why Im asking what the process is Sandgrounder, the papers are in, I just wish to know what happens next?

Do they pay? If not is there a further process of using high court bailiffs or the Swiss equilvent, which, as far as I know are the police?
Has someone told you that it would actually go to court? Is there even a case?

If your non-buyer says after viewing that the item is crap and not what he had in mind because of xyz (could be any reason which he doesn't even have to prove - damage somewhere which you didn't photograph for the site, for example), there is no case, is there? He's a consumer and subject to consumer law, same as everyone else.

It's an expensive risk to take him to court.

If you have already "put the papers in", as you say, you just have to wait your turn. They will contact you.
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Has someone told you that it would actually go to court? Is there even a case?

If your non-buyer says after viewing that the item is crap and not what he had in mind because of xyz (could be any reason which he doesn't even have to prove - damage somewhere which you didn't photograph for the site, for example), there is no case, is there? He's a consumer and subject to consumer law, same as everyone else.

It's an expensive risk to take him to court.

If you have already "put the papers in", as you say, you just have to wait your turn. They will contact you.
If your non-buyer says after viewing that the item is crap and not what he had in mind because of xyz (could be any reason which he doesn't even have to prove - damage somewhere which you didn't photograph for the site, for example), there is no case, is there? He's a consumer and subject to consumer law, same as everyone else. = The item was sold as seen, he bought it without seeing it, I still have to pay fees and relisting fees, he knew what he was doing, the guy owns a garage.

It's an expensive risk to take him to court. = under CHF100 so far, if I win the legal costs and mine will be up to him. Its the principle with me, a deal is a deal, if you dont like it dont do it!
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