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Why is meat so expensive in Switzerland? (and so cheap just outside CH)

Are there some huge import duties? or is it just the supermarket markup? where do the restaurants buy the meat? and what is the typical gross margin restaurants (in Zurich or Geneva) make on beef steaks?

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Re: Why is meat so expensive in Switzerland? (and so cheap just outside CH)

There are a lot of factors:

- import restrictions and duties keep the price of many Swiss goods high by preventing Swiss importers and residents buying anything other than small quantities of foreign produce at lower prices across the border
- they prioritize meat products from Swiss cows produce by swiss farmers
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Re: Why is meat so expensive in Switzerland? (and so cheap just outside CH)

17 francs per kilo tax for meat. Have a read in the photo. This booklet can be picked up when entering Switzerland
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Part of this is also because of very strict husbandry, feeds/no additives, access to outdoors and local abbatoirs, etc.

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Are there some huge import duties? or is it just the supermarket markup? where do the restaurants buy the meat? and what is the typical gross margin restaurants (in Zurich or Geneva) make on beef steaks?

P.S. because of another thread I have a bad reputation on this forum. Please answer politely, this is just a question out of curiosity, I'm not complaining about anything.
Because Swiss beef actually comes from cows, unlike EU beef which usually turns out to be horse or hedgehog or somesuch.
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Re: Why is meat so expensive in Switzerland? (and so cheap just outside CH)

Here some points you can research (either on-line, or by going to the country side, walk around and ask people)

Average income of a Swiss Farmer vs. elsewhere.
Average land area of a Swiss Farm vs. elsewhere.
Average number of cows per Swiss Farm vs. elsewhere.
Elevation profile of Swiss Farm vs. elsewhere.
Number of days a Swiss cow must be outside vs. elsewhere.
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Re: Why is meat so expensive in Switzerland? (and so cheap just outside CH)

I expect a lot of restaurants will buy from a cash and carry. To give you an idea, I buy a lot of our steak in bulk from www.topcc.ch which I am able to access via my company.

Last night's dinner was fillet mignon that I cut from a whole tenderloin that cost CHF 50 a kilo (it was on offer). It was delicious.
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Re: Why is meat so expensive in Switzerland? (and so cheap just outside CH)

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Last night's dinner was fillet mignon that I cut from a whole tenderloin that cost CHF 50 a kilo (it was on offer). It was delicious.
In the US good beef is pricey as well. Tenderloin at the link below works out at something like 46 CHF a kilo.

http://tamisgrassfedbeef.com/order/

Of course when in the US you can buy much cheaper tenderloin at Walmart, but it's not very good quality.

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Re: Why is meat so expensive in Switzerland? (and so cheap just outside CH)

I was pleasantly surprised to find that meat bought from our butcher shop here is generally not more expensive than from the grocery store. (In the US purchasing from a specialty butcher - if you can find one anymore - often carries quite a price premium.) All the more pleasantlly surprised, as the quality from our local butcher is outstanding.

The local butcher labels his meat not only by country of origin, but also the Swiss meat is labeled by the farm it comes from. I know these farms, walk by most daily and can see for myself how the animals are treated.

I'll freely admit to ranting rather often about Hochpreisinsel Schweiz, but locally sourced ethically raised meat is one thing I don't mind paying up for. I can see for my own eyes that at these farms 'Swiss quality' is not a myth, it's the real deal.

(Although I have stopped eating meat, motivated largely because I now 'know' the cows. But when buying for my husband the unrepentant carnivore, my conscience is easy.)

My solutioin is to buy from a trusted source, and eat sparingly. The family's meat consumption is waaaay down from what it used to be in the US, even OH eats less than a quarter of what he did back home. Mostly that's our advancing age and fear of hardening arteries rather than sticker shock, though.
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Are there some huge import duties? or is it just the supermarket markup? where do the restaurants buy the meat? and what is the typical gross margin restaurants (in Zurich or Geneva) make on beef steaks?

P.S. because of another thread I have a bad reputation on this forum. Please answer politely, this is just a question out of curiosity, I'm not complaining about anything.
I think the problem is that you don't pay any attention to the people who take the trouble and time to explain how things work here, and try to help you see things from a different perspective.

It's not your "polite" questions which cause the decline in your reputation.
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Re: Why is meat so expensive in Switzerland? (and so cheap just outside CH)

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Are there some huge import duties? or is it just the supermarket markup? where do the restaurants buy the meat? and what is the typical gross margin restaurants (in Zurich or Geneva) make on beef steaks?

P.S. because of another thread I have a bad reputation on this forum. Please answer politely, this is just a question out of curiosity, I'm not complaining about anything.
Small supplies for the high population relative to farming land.

It does not reflect the quality, but the scarcity.
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Re: Why is meat so expensive in Switzerland? (and so cheap just outside CH)

Mostly retailer markup.

If I want the best beef, I buy it in Italy, better quality at 1/3 the price.

(Fresh) Pork and chicken I buy in Switzerland, however. (cured pork in Italy).

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Re: Why is meat so expensive in Switzerland? (and so cheap just outside CH)

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I think the problem is that you don't pay any attention to the people who take the trouble and time to explain how things work here, and try to help you see things from a different perspective.

It's not your "polite" questions which cause the decline in your reputation.
your answer is off-topic. we are talking about meat in CH here, not about my profile on this forum.
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your answer is off-topic. we are talking about meat in CH here, not about my profile on this forum.
How long will it take you to realize that this is an open forum and almost always will go off-topic? Actually that is part of the fun here.
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I was pleasantly surprised to find that meat bought from our butcher shop here is generally not more expensive than from the grocery store. (In the US purchasing from a specialty butcher - if you can find one anymore - often carries quite a price premium.) All the more pleasantlly surprised, as the quality from our local butcher is outstanding.
I totally agree. At Coop and Migros the quality is often mediocre or even poor while the prices are often pretty much in line with our local butchers.
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your answer is off-topic. we are talking about meat in CH here, not about my profile on this forum.
I was responding to your "P.S" and attempting to give you some help and insight but clearly you are just happy in your own blinkered impressions and not interested in anyone's views unless they jive with your own. Not even sure why you bother asking these questions on the forum anyway.
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Re: Why is meat so expensive in Switzerland? (and so cheap just outside CH)

The answer to the original question is a pretty simple example of true value. Meat is expensive because that is the price people are willing to pay. I have to say, however, that in the 6 years I've been here there has been a dramatic change in prices and deals. (Or have I just become accustomed?)
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your answer is off-topic. we are talking about meat in CH here, not about my profile on this forum.
It wasn't off topic, she highlighted part of your OP about your own reputation, something that you brought up. This is an open forum and everyone is free to comment as they like, if you hadn't mentioned it, neither would she.
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Here some points you can research (either on-line, or by going to the country side, walk around and ask people)

Average income of a Swiss Farmer vs. elsewhere. High.
Average land area of a Swiss Farm vs. elsewhere.Low
Average number of cows per Swiss Farm vs. elsewhere.Low
Elevation profile of Swiss Farm vs. elsewhere.compared to NL? Low. Compared to Scotland? about the same
Number of days a Swiss cow must be outside vs. elsewhere.cows grazing outside are cheaper to maintain, because they tend to be healthier, no?
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