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Australia 13 28.26%
Switzerland 24 52.17%
Both equally 9 19.57%
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Don't see how the indigenous people ever benefited from the white Australia policy. Please enlighten me.

And yeah, it shows.

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Don't really agree with that statement as it benefits all Australians.

But yeah I am a white Australian.
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Don't see how the indigenous people ever benefited from the white Australia policy. Please enlighten me.
Didn't that finish in the 1960's?

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And yeah, it shows.
I'm proud of it too!
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Basically, everyone who is white, was an immigrant to Australia origianlly {often from rather colourful backgrounds}. Hopefully they were not treated as badly as the present would-be immigrants
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Didn't that finish in the 1960's?



I'm proud of it too!
Have you tried asking any of the indigenous population if everything is tickety boo since the '60s?
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Don't really agree with that statement as it benefits all Australians.

But yeah I am a white Australian.
By "benefits all Australians" does that also include the indigenous Aboriginal people?
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No. It didn't. I have met women who lost children in the mid seventies. It probably isn't an issue anymore as the genocide had worked by then.

Sorry to the op for the turn of discussion, but it is exactly the sort of thing l was forced to explain to Europeans when l left Oz, young naive and not knowing the history of my own country.
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2. Its interesting that we speak about prioritising Australia, and yet year on year we cut budget for women's shelters etc.
There are many shelters for women here but not a single shelter for men. Would be nice if there was ANY budget for men's shelters.
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The distance from other places, and ocean borders might have something to do with it too.

There are many things to admire about Australia. Its deep rooted racism and xenophobia, particularly when it comes to the neediest and most desperate people in the world, isn't one of them.
I personally found xenophobia to be much worse in Switzerland.
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Have you tried asking any of the indigenous population if everything is tickety boo since the '60s?
Yeah I have. And I never said everything was great, we still have a long way to go.

Just so your aware the white Australia policy (which officially ended in the 60's) is completely separate matter to the current refugee policy.

The fact that it is brought up as an argument against the current refugee policy reeks of desperation.
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Australia today is far more conservative, far more opposed to difference and far more intolerant than it was in the past.
Interesting you should say that... my experience was the opposite in that I found Switzerland to be far more conservative than Australia. I also found Australia to be a lot more conservative when I was younger.
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..... very up-to-date with what is happening in the world. Very difficult to talk about Mozart, Rubens, Mendelssohn, Chagall - "wah?" [not even who] so we opted to return to Europe and have felt wonderful ever since.....
Definitely something I would base my decision on moving somewhere on One gotta be able to talk about all those mentioned contemporary artists on daily basis.
I'm sure aresid or what his name is will confirm, it's a human right to expect the indigenes to not only know but also be very keen on indulging those subjects when ever they cross my path.

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I personally found xenophobia to be much worse in Switzerland.
Somebody who's on the receiving end in one case, on the giving end in the other (assuming you're white), isn't really in a position to judge.
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Definitely something I would base my decision on moving somewhere on One gotta be able to talk about all those mentioned contemporary artists about on daily basis.
I'm sure aresid or what his name is will confirm, it's a human right to expect the indigenes to not only know but also be very keen on indulging those subjects when ever they cross my path.
Wha..? Of course one expects the indigenes to talk about such things since we all learn about that fancy fondue long before coming to Switzerland...

But that made me laugh. I knew people who expected to debate French literature or history with all the French they encounter...only to be disappointed because they know more about all of these things...
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At the risk of upsetting anyone, anywhere : we have lived for considerable periods in both countries. Loved CH despite that there are drawbacks as with everywhere.
Very, very unhappy in Oz, resulting in illness : we found the people there not - shall we say - very up-to-date with what is happening in the world. Very difficult to talk about Mozart, Rubens, Mendelssohn, Chagall - "wah?" [not even who] so we opted to return to Europe and have felt wonderful ever since.
But this is just our personal opinion, and would not suit everyone of course.
Where did you live? Lightning Ridge? Of course, Australia is just one huge cultural desert.
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Gesuis! 5 pages and I haven't figure out which country (CH/AU) is better! So be patient and please answer my questions:

1 - Where the people are nicer?
2 - Where the taxes are lower?
3 - Where the working environment is better for a skilled worker (MsC, PhD, etc.)?
4 - Where the girls have better bottoms? I was astonished... no, in fact I felt like I was run by a truck when I met a New Zealander girl yesterday: she was slim, fit, but with a narrow waist, wide hips, and a big, bubbly, wonderful artwork ass. How is Australia in that department? Euro countries sucks..
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But that made me laugh. I knew people who expected to debate French literature or history with all the French they encounter...only to be disappointed because they know more about all of these things...
I know this guy who, when he was a kid, was really surprised that people in London didn't wear top hats, when he visited there the first time, in 1969. As a matter of fact, it wasn't until the mid '80s that he'd more or less internalized that bitter reality.

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Where did you live? Lightning Ridge? Of course, Australia is just one huge cultural desert.

Perth..... between 1986-1991
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Perth..... between 1986-1991
Perhaps you should have considered living in Lightning Ridge.
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Gesuis! 5 pages and I haven't figure out which country (CH/AU) is better! So be patient and please answer my questions:

1 - Where the people are nicer?
2 - Where the taxes are lower?
3 - Where the working environment is better for a skilled worker (MsC, PhD, etc.)?
4 - Where the girls have better bottoms? I was astonished... no, in fact I felt like I was run by a truck when I met a New Zealander girl yesterday: she was slim, fit, but with a narrow waist, wide hips, and a big, bubbly, wonderful artwork ass. How is Australia in that department? Euro countries sucks..
You're not fooling any of us with your first 3 questions.
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You're not fooling any of us with your first 3 questions.
It was a serious question! Are AUS girls like that? If yes, I will start to look for a job there...
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