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Being Romanian.
If he had been from the UK, Germany or any other "Western European" nation, would you have felt any different? Or is the problem for you the fact that he is Central European and the chances of being screwed increase 100 fold?
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Old 29.06.2017, 18:26
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Saying he was a martial arts expert
I know a few martial arts experts. A real martial arts expert will never tell you they are one - they are far too modest for that.

If the guy gets back to you wanting money (for any reason, or for any time period) - don't give him any.
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Old 29.06.2017, 18:30
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Re: Identity theft in Switzerland

Me too.
I got too comfortable in the swimming baths over the last few years. The locals normally keep an eye on things.
Usually my wife is with me - more streetwise and cannot swim.
One of the main realisations for me how I had let so much info get into my wallet.
I have nothing against Romanians - excect that every person I have spoken to in the last 2 days has given me such a dressing down for even getting involved. This includes my Turkish and Serbish friends.
I tend to take people on face value - but have my own set of filtering people. This time I took a chance and was open and enjoyed a good talk. Learnt some building techniques also.
My Turkish friend in the village just recently lost 70K from somebody from the same land and was the one to tell me about the identity theft scams - not always involving money.
He owns a restaurant and the guy who scammed him spent 8 months doing this.
There is a gang operating 10 km from where we live and some have had Police training in rapid ID copying techniques.
This was another thing that started to worry me. The silence is the worse. It means maybe they have enough.
It is not just for money - as was mentioned before - it is the identity for other activities
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Old 29.06.2017, 18:38
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I call BS on your story. Given your prejudices, you wouldn't have hanged out with him for 3 days consecutively to begin with.

You have a loooooot of time on your hands...

Is this a British thing?
Send me a pm and come over and I will buy you a beer. Will introduce you to a few interesting people. Maybe meet in the Penny in aarau and dispell your BS theory
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Old 29.06.2017, 18:44
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Send me a pm and come over and I will buy you a beer. Will introduce you to a few interesting people. Maybe meet in the Penny in aarau and dispell your BS theory
I don't hang out with random people from the internet. Especially if they are British.

Listen, I hope you'll be fine. For the moment nothing happened you know. To me he looks like a guy who talks too much, brags a lot, and I wouldn't have spent more than an hour with him, probably even less. I don't know what was he doing here, but I have the feeling you think he's way "smarter" than he really is.

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Re: Identity theft in Switzerland

Irish? No BS - just scared
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Irish?
lol

All the crooks in the American movies are Irish, btw.

Trust me, I pay attention.



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No BS - just scared
You already got some good advice. Go to the police, maybe? Although for what exactly, don't know. Tell them the stories from the Turkish friend.

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Old 29.06.2017, 21:43
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Re: Identity theft in Switzerland

My Turkish friend managed to get back about 70 percent of his money back through the insurance - via police reports. Lots of hassle. The guy worked for him.

This is one of my main points - if someone uses your ID - fake or otherwise to make a crime, then the onus is on you to prove your innocence. The time, money and effort involved is a big waste of (in my case ) a short life.

These gangs are good nowadays - and operate here.

The Swiss system is not water tight.

Maybe this thread makes someone do a double take on changing passwords, cleaning their wallet and (unlike me) being careful when talking to strangers in a bar.
Hope that I do not have to update this with the full story and an unhappy ending.
Cheers for all the advice and useful info and usual slagging off.
Maybe we can fix your roof later this year - I know a man in London.
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My Turkish friend managed to get back about 70 percent of his money back through the insurance - via police reports. Lots of hassle. The guy worked for him.

This is one of my main points - if someone uses your ID - fake or otherwise to make a crime, then the onus is on you to prove your innocence. The time, money and effort involved is a big waste of (in my case ) a short life.

These gangs are good nowadays - and operate here.

The Swiss system is not water tight.

Maybe this thread makes someone do a double take on changing passwords, cleaning their wallet and (unlike me) being careful when talking to strangers in a bar.
Hope that I do not have to update this with the full story and an unhappy ending.
Cheers for all the advice and useful info and usual slagging off.
Maybe we can fix your roof later this year - I know a man in London.
If something happened to one of your friends it doesn't mean it has to happen to you too. There are a lot of bad people in every nation, Turkish included. Let's check the Swiss police stats btw. You might think twice before hanging out with him lol.

For me it's just surprising that someone spends a pleasant time with a stranger (I would think many times before doing that, and unlike you, I mean every kind of stranger here), and then totally freak out. You either don't do that in general, or have some guts when you do it. Go with your instinct.
Really hope you will be fine.
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Old 29.06.2017, 22:11
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My Turkish friend managed to get back about 70 percent of his money back through the insurance - via police reports. Lots of hassle. The guy worked for him.

This is one of my main points - if someone uses your ID - fake or otherwise to make a crime, then the onus is on you to prove your innocence. The time, money and effort involved is a big waste of (in my case ) a short life.

These gangs are good nowadays - and operate here.

The Swiss system is not water tight.

Maybe this thread makes someone do a double take on changing passwords, cleaning their wallet and (unlike me) being careful when talking to strangers in a bar.
Hope that I do not have to update this with the full story and an unhappy ending.
Cheers for all the advice and useful info and usual slagging off.
Maybe we can fix your roof later this year - I know a man in London.
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Old 29.06.2017, 22:12
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Re: Identity theft in Switzerland

Would not trust my Turkish friend as far as I could throw him.
But he is still a friend
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Old 29.06.2017, 22:51
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Re: Identity theft in Switzerland

I am a paranoid person and i would firstly worry about the country i am NO LONGER in (UK), rather than the guy settling in Switzerland as me.
A fraudster may claim to be you, returning to the uk, applying for loans or credit cards to help 'you' get back into the uk system and then disappear into the sunset with a new Prada bag (never owned one, dont like it, but its the first thing that came to mind to add to the drama) and a few thousand grand.
Is this what worries you?
I hope it's just the brain playing tricks. A lot of East europeans are just friendly and open and it's all innocent.
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Old 30.06.2017, 00:51
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Would not trust my Turkish friend as far as I could throw him.
But he is still a friend
Yeah. This is an internet forum though and I personally tend to take everything with a pinch of salt.
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Re: Identity theft in Switzerland

Maybe he was genuinely interested in being your friend, then got put off by the amount of time you spent blabbing about yourself and gave you the boot.

Anyway, if he did buy a SIM card here, it means he had to show some form of ID and it's probable registered. So if he does end up stealing your identity, at least you have a lead. Unless he bought the SIM with yet ANOTHER stolen identity of course...
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Re: Identity theft in Switzerland

This was something which got me thinking also.

I remember the hassle I had with Sunrise over ID and addresses (due to terrorism) a few years ago. I had register the SIM.
He had asked me where the best place was to get a cheap SIM card - which was strangely enough 80 M from the bar we were in and the same place that I got my last phone 3 years ago (pay as you go).

The last think I said to him before he walked down the street to the shop was "you will need some ID".
He told me the that salesman spoke "OK" english and was probably Serbian.
However, if the ID he used is fake, then this is another dead end if ever I need to chase up the guy. I suppose Sunrise only care about the sale.

About getting bored with me - possibly or even probably. But after the swimming day, my wife did not work the next day, the bar does not open at weekends and I was already getting suspicious and had decided that it was better to put some distance between this guy and myself. Yesterday was the first time for a week that I went back.
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Old 30.06.2017, 07:20
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I am a paranoid person and i would firstly worry about the country i am NO LONGER in (UK), rather than the guy settling in Switzerland as me.
A fraudster may claim to be you, returning to the uk, applying for loans or credit cards to help 'you' get back into the uk system and then disappear into the sunset with a new Prada bag (never owned one, dont like it, but its the first thing that came to mind to add to the drama) and a few thousand grand.
Is this what worries you?
I hope it's just the brain playing tricks. A lot of East europeans are just friendly and open and it's all innocent.
This is VERY true.
First time I came to Switzerland in 1998 I rented out my house to a woman in Cumbria.
She seemed OK - 3 kids 2 dogs and on the social.
The idea was that the rent from the social (housing benefit) would pay the mortgage.
When I got back, she had changed her name to mine, reversed the payments to the bank, applied for loans plus a lot more which I will not go into here.

In those times it was more difficult to control things from Switzerland than today - but it took me 6 months court proceedings and lawyers and begging letters to the bank and others to stop foreclosure and bailiffs to be able to get rid of this woman and sell the house at a loss and pay off all the creditors.

This is why I am very worried about identity theft - I do not need this again.
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I call BS on your story. Given your prejudices, you wouldn't have hanged out with him for 3 days consecutively to begin with.

You have a loooooot of time on your hands...

Is this a British thing?


No, we don't hang around with strangers in a swimming pool, flesh exposure being frowned upon by Queen Victoria! We go to a tea room instead...or a Whisky bar North of the border!
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No, we don't hang around with strangers in a swimming pool, flesh exposure being frowned upon by Queen Victoria! We go to a tea room instead...or a Whisky bar North of the border!
So even when you screw people up, you do it with style.


But in OP's case, it looks like I can make some jokes....An Irish, a Romanian and a Turkish man walk into a bar....(or a swimming pool)


Sorry OP, we just want to lighten you up.

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Re: Identity theft in Switzerland

Maybe the fact this person was with you for 3days is indicative of their intellect level of the aforementioned person? Or they really, genuinely were just friendly and inquisitive and you're paranoid.

Any crook worth their salt will not hang around for 3 days committing a crime of ID theft. They actually need very little info to create a false ID, most of which could likely be found in your wallet, or/and within 30/60mins of talking to you.

They'd have "dipped" your pockets and wallet and run for the hills......unless of course, your a multi-billionaire and have billions to be fleeced of and the risk outweighs the returns.
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Re: Identity theft in Switzerland

I suspect there is this Romanian guy in London, telling his friends what a nice time he had in Switzerland, met this friendly, English speaking bloke, spent three days with him and went to the swimming pool yadda, yadda, yadda.
Until a mate tells him: "I saw something like that on EF, was that about you?"
Then he will bitch about the nasty, backstabbing ..... Swiss for the rest of his life.
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