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hoover1 03.05.2021 08:16

Re: Someone stealing my parking place
 
You can call up landlord each time someone is parking on your spot - and they will do their job after second call you make - simply putting parking fine for the car - for parking on private property without permission ( you are not entitled to do that ).

more than 20-years ago I had also similar but bit different situation - turned out it was someone that rented space and spot number was given to him was nr.6 while my one was nr.9 and simple mistake happens - quick chat with car owner and checking papers revealed the issue and earned me a bottle of red wine.

cheers
h

curley 03.05.2021 08:47

Re: Someone stealing my parking place
 
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Originally Posted by hoover1 (Post 3302007)
You can call up landlord each time someone is parking on your spot - and they will do their job after second call you make - simply putting parking fine for the car - for parking on private property without permission ( you are not entitled to do that ).

more than 20-years ago I had also similar but bit different situation - turned out it was someone that rented space and spot number was given to him was nr.6 while my one was nr.9 and simple mistake happens - quick chat with car owner and checking papers revealed the issue and earned me a bottle of red wine.

cheers
h

Neither are they without "richterlicher Beschluss" sign.

LakeSwimmer 03.05.2021 09:46

Re: Someone stealing my parking place
 
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Originally Posted by Orac (Post 2823581)
I don't have a car and someone is using my internal parking spot. How can I find out the name and address of the plate owner?

Once I find out who it is, how do I legally stop them using it? (I'm not the tyre slasher type :-)

Thanks in advance

I had a similar situation and simply stopped paying for it. As it was tied into appartment contract I had some email tennis with agents, but as different people were using 2/3 times a week I just took photo each time and stopped paying.

hoover1 03.05.2021 13:01

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Originally Posted by LakeSwimmer (Post 3302025)
I had a similar situation and simply stopped paying for it. As it was tied into appartment contract I had some email tennis with agents, but as different people were using 2/3 times a week I just took photo each time and stopped paying.

That would normally get you nowhere except Betreibungsbüro as company renting spot to you couldn't care less who is parking there if you permitted it and payment isn't related even to use of space (see OP has no car even!) but to agreement you have and until mentioned there that you can stop paying when someone is using the spot - you simply breaking the contract.

newtoswitz 03.05.2021 13:22

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Originally Posted by hoover1 (Post 3302102)
That would normally get you nowhere except Betreibungsbüro as company renting spot to you couldn't care less who is parking there if you permitted it and payment isn't related even to use of space (see OP has no car even!) but to agreement you have and until mentioned there that you can stop paying when someone is using the spot - you simply breaking the contract.

If you want to do this you should pay the relevant amount into an escrow account and inform them of this, in writing, with a very clear statement of your expectations and rights per the contract.

They do have a responsibility to sort out the problem - they are leasing a parking spot, so if that spot is not available and they haven't done what they legally need to do to make it available then they are not providing the service per the contract.

Tarci 03.05.2021 13:49

Re: Someone stealing my parking place
 
We had the same problem, we left a polite note first. Did not work. We wrote to the Verwaltung and that did the job.
We had the same problem with some scooters. They were parked all over the place!
So the Verwaltung wrote a letter to all of us in the house, about were parking. That worked, now it’s all fine.

Urs Max 03.05.2021 15:53

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Originally Posted by jen001 (Post 3301923)
I should point out that it is more of a Gemeinde[I] than [I]the[I] Gemeinde but I have a contract with my number plate and the number of the space linked to it, and a standing order paying the rent on it every month.

If the word "Gemeinde" is printed in yellow/orange, on the wall or on the ground, people will assume that your spot is reserved for anybody having business with them (plus some who will abuse the opportunity). This is common practice.

In such a case you'd want a plate with your number screwed in place on the wall, after every "Gemeinde" applying to your spot has been removed/painted over. Not sure whose duty the numberplate is, but removing "Gemeinde" is definitely the owner's. It won't hurt to make sure that this place is indeed yours by enquiring with the Gemeinde, also to build a bit of a connection.

curley 03.05.2021 16:07

Re: Someone stealing my parking place
 
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Originally Posted by Urs Max (Post 3302185)
If the word "Gemeinde" is printed in yellow/orange, on the wall or on the ground, people will assume that your spot is reserved for anybody having business with them (plus some who will abuse the opportunity). This is common practice.

In such a case you'd want a plate with your number screwed in place on the wall, after every "Gemeinde" applying to your spot has been removed/painted over. Not sure whose duty the numberplate is, but removing "Gemeinde" is definitely the owner's. It won't hurt to make sure that this place is indeed yours by enquiring with the Gemeinde, also to build a bit of a connection.

No need. Indicating the no-plate is enough.
Nothing scarier than the idea, one might park on the spot of the Gemeindepräsident. :D

LakeSwimmer 03.05.2021 16:09

Re: Someone stealing my parking place
 
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Originally Posted by hoover1 (Post 3302102)
That would normally get you nowhere except Betreibungsbüro as company renting spot to you couldn't care less who is parking there if you permitted it and payment isn't related even to use of space (see OP has no car even!) but to agreement you have and until mentioned there that you can stop paying when someone is using the spot - you simply breaking the contract.

I didn’t have a car but the space (in central hof)was used almost daily by different cars , not permitted by me. I friendly notes on cars stating it was a private place. I sent many emails with photos and simply just stopped paying.
Heard nothing so maybe they simply rented to someone else.
👍

hoover1 03.05.2021 19:11

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Originally Posted by LakeSwimmer (Post 3302191)
I didn’t have a car but the space (in central hof)was used almost daily by different cars , not permitted by me. I friendly notes on cars stating it was a private place. I sent many emails with photos and simply just stopped paying.
Heard nothing so maybe they simply rented to someone else.
👍

Troll?

LakeSwimmer 03.05.2021 19:56

Re: Someone stealing my parking place
 
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Originally Posted by hoover1 (Post 3302249)
Troll?

No Lucerne

Urs Max 04.05.2021 11:44

Re: Someone stealing my parking place
 
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Originally Posted by curley (Post 3302190)
No need. Indicating the no-plate is enough.

No need =/= useful

curley 04.05.2021 15:46

Re: Someone stealing my parking place
 
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Originally Posted by Urs Max (Post 3302439)
No need =/= useful

From all the possible synonyms you did not hit one :D

Plus, ever heard of "never change a running system"? The perfect case of 'no need'

Urs Max 05.05.2021 12:53

Re: Someone stealing my parking place
 
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Originally Posted by curley (Post 3302544)
From all the possible synonyms you did not hit one :D

Plus, ever heard of "never change a running system"? The perfect case of 'no need'

Congrats, you've just won the internet.

Kittster 05.05.2021 13:10

Re: Someone stealing my parking place
 
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Originally Posted by Chuff (Post 3301994)
I guess you could put a traffic cone in the space and another sign on the wall or just keep leaving a note on the car or reporting it (take photos of the car and registration plate).

I would have suggested that but a friend tried this and the first cone was stolen, the second one was vandalised and then they basically gave up. They moved a little while later and now have a designated underground parking space.

Axa 05.05.2021 13:24

Re: Someone stealing my parking place
 
Just curious at the legal implications of drilling the floor, installing an expansion bolt, and tie with a wire or cable a bumper of the offending car to the bolt. What could happen beyond lots of laughing?

I know this is beyond irresponsible but if no one's accountable for the place being used against tenant wishes, quite probably no one's accountable for a prank...........but, better start with a recommended letter to the building management and leave pranks for drinking nights with friends.

k_and_e 05.05.2021 13:28

Re: Someone stealing my parking place
 
If you're in a German-speaking part of the world, you just put a towel on your parking place so that everyone understands that it's reserved.

Chuff 05.05.2021 13:30

Re: Someone stealing my parking place
 
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Originally Posted by Kittster (Post 3302778)
I would have suggested that but a friend tried this and the first cone was stolen, the second one was vandalised and then they basically gave up. They moved a little while later and now have a designated underground parking space.

Then what would also likely work would be a heavily weighted stand, like for a sun shade (those large umbrellas at the beach). You can usually fill them with sand or water and they weigh 10+KG so if one was in the space with a sign on it (private parking, fine if caught) that would make it pretty hard to lug around without being very obvious.

curley 05.05.2021 13:30

Re: Someone stealing my parking place
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Axa (Post 3302782)
Just curious at the legal implications of drilling the floor, installing an expansion bolt, and tie with a wire or cable a bumper of the offending car to the bolt. What could happen beyond lots of laughing?

I know this is beyond irresponsible but if no one's accountable for the place being used against tenant wishes, quite probably no one's accountable for a prank...........but, better start with a recommended letter to the building management and leave pranks for drinking nights with friends.

Sachbeschädigung.
Vigilantism is not an option here. I know it's tempting, I've had an idea or two in certain cases.

bowlie 05.05.2021 13:34

Re: Someone stealing my parking place
 
Put up a (fake?) video camera with an appropriate sign that the site is under surveillance 24/7.


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