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Old 27.07.2017, 22:27
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Someone stealing my parking place

I don't have a car and someone is using my internal parking spot. How can I find out the name and address of the plate owner?

Once I find out who it is, how do I legally stop them using it? (I'm not the tyre slasher type :-)

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Old 27.07.2017, 22:35
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Typical common sense, first leave a note that it's illegal and you'll call the police next time.

if he repeats, act on it.
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Would you like the spot empty for when you have visitors, or rent it out to the person using it?

Initially, I'd leave a polite note on the windscreen asking him/her to contact you to discuss rental cost. Then if s/he continues to use it without permission or rent- I'd talk to the landlord agent first- with the number. Happy to help with the French if required.

We allow residents at our UK flat to use our space for free- as long as they leave it free when we come or any of our visitors - seems petty to refuse when we are not using it.

Then if that does not work- you can find out the name and address from a public register- or ask at your local police.
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Old 27.07.2017, 22:42
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Re: Someone stealing my parking place

Thanks for the quick replies.

It's just a bit cheeky to use it without asking. People have asked me before and in some cases I did not accept any payment for it, in other cases I did because they really would not allow me to not accept payment. I just don't like being taken for a fool.

I pay CHF 150 a month for it, and of course I should sub-let it. But to do that I need written permission from the agent in Vaud. And of course it creates complications.

I'll leave a note asking the owner to contact me before using the space again. If they don't then I'll look up the plate, or buy a Cargo Bike.
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Old 27.07.2017, 23:03
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Re: Someone stealing my parking place

Just leave a lot of junk in your spot.

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Old 27.07.2017, 23:03
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Re: Someone stealing my parking place

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Does it matter? If the OP pays the rent, he decides who parks there.

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2. If the guy continues to park there, tell the landlord. (I'd not do the police thing as you said it's the internal car park, so not some random person, but a neighbour.)

Is it always the same car? What canton is it registered in? (Some have online DBs and we can immediately tell you who it is ;-) )
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If they don't then I'll look up the plate, or buy a Cargo Bike.
If the number is blocked for online queries, call the police and request the info, in all likelihood they'll give you the information after you've described the issue.

Just know that the police probably can't do anything, it's the landlord who has to make sure your slot is available as contractually agreed.
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Does it matter? If the OP pays the rent, he decides who parks there.

Steps:
1. Note.
2. If the guy continues to park there, tell the landlord. (I'd not do the police thing as you said it's the internal car park, so not some random person, but a neighbour.)

Is it always the same car? What canton is it registered in? (Some have online DBs and we can immediately tell you who it is ;-) )
It matters in as much it will make a difference to how to proceed.
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Re: Someone stealing my parking place

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We allow residents at our UK flat to use our space for free- as long as they leave it free when we come or any of our visitors - seems petty to refuse when we are not using it.
For me it's simple. If OP is paying CHF 150 p/m then why should some pompous git think they have the right to constantly use it for free, without even the common decency to ask permission and at someone else's expense?
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Re: Someone stealing my parking place

I doubt the police will get involved. It's a civil case because it's on private property.
Would support the ramping up approach - start off with a note asking the driver to contact you and then ramp it up from there.
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Re: Someone stealing my parking place

I would just leave a note as others have said.


It's not very complicated to sub-let a space from what I've heard from friends... may be the best option, no? An extra 150 a month is better than a kick in the teeth
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Re: Someone stealing my parking place

Can anyone tell me whether the landlord is required to put up a sign with my license plate number on my space? Or to guarantee that my space is available for me to park in?

I rent a space that is off the street and it is marked to show that is belongs to the building (i.e. „Gemeinde“) but not specifically with my number. This means that visitors cannot know that it is not available to them. A temporary paper plastic-covered Print-out was put up as a short term solution, and has lasted through the Winter but today it was removed ...presumably by the man who parked in my space? Or possibly the Gemeinde themselves? I think they have switched it out from the Artzpraxis that used to rent it before me and had „Artzpraxis“ on it.

I am not permitted to park in any available space, only the one allotted to me. I absolutely certain of this because I had requested the „Gemeinde“ Space next to it and was refused on the basis that it was not available as it was being used by the „Gemeinde“.
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Re: Someone stealing my parking place

Note asking if he/she is interested in subletting your parking spot.

If you are not planning on owning a car and/or you don't need your parking spot, can you cancel it from your contract (for the next available date, of course).
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Note asking if he/she is interested in subletting your parking spot.

If you are not planning on owning a car and/or you don't need your parking spot, can you cancel it from your contract (for the next available date, of course).
You replied to a post of July 2017, mate.

@jen001. My neighbours have the same problem. First the landlord refused to mark the space (but happily collects money for it monthly), the next one who took over insisted, so the landlord put a "Reserviert" plate there, so the people now arrive from all over Europe, thinking that space was reserved just for them.
I'm not sure whether you have the right to demand but as it is the "Gemeinde" you got a good chance to discuss this reasonably. Explain the problem. If they refuse have one done yourself and put it up. You can take it with you when you move and you take your number-plate with you from car to car as well, so it's not a crazy investment.
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Re: Someone stealing my parking place

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Thanks. I was thinking that too - signs are not that expensive.
It’s more that without a definite sign that the space is reserved for me they are effectively taking my money and using the space themselves anyway. I am wondering what their actual legal obligation is.

I should point out that it is more of a Gemeinde[I] than [I]the[I] Gemeinde but I have a contract with my number plate and the number of the space linked to it, and a standing order paying the rent on it every month.
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Thanks. I was thinking that too - signs are not that expensive.
It’s more that without a definite sign that the space is reserved for me they are effectively taking my money and using the space themselves anyway. I am wondering what their actual legal obligation is.

I should point out that it is more of a Gemeinde[I] than [I]the[I] Gemeinde but I have a contract with my number plate and the number of the space linked to it, and a standing order paying the rent on it every month.
A Gemeinde, not the Gemeinde? LOL. What would that be, the Kirchengemeinde?
However, once rented out, it's not really their problem anymore - legally - I would say. Even if they would put the sign up it would be up to you to take the necessary steps against anyone ignoring it.
Our landlord definitely has a "I don't give a f**" attitude about it, seeing it happen every day and even enjoying a chat and a laugh with people who park on the one spot they are not supposed to.

An easy yet not too cheap solution is to install a pole but to do that, you need the okay of the landlord and strangely enough they don't seem to like giving that.
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Thanks. I was thinking that too - signs are not that expensive.
It’s more that without a definite sign that the space is reserved for me they are effectively taking my money and using the space themselves anyway. I am wondering what their actual legal obligation is.

I should point out that it is more of a Gemeinde[I] than [I]the[I] Gemeinde but I have a contract with my number plate and the number of the space linked to it, and a standing order paying the rent on it every month.
I guess you could put a traffic cone in the space and another sign on the wall or just keep leaving a note on the car or reporting it (take photos of the car and registration plate).
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Can anyone tell me whether the landlord is required to put up a sign with my license plate number on my space? Or to guarantee that my space is available for me to park in?
No. But there's nothing to stop you nipping down to Jumbo or the like and buying a "private" sign and affixing it in some way to the space - so long as you make good when you leave.

(You'd probably get away with putting a moveable pole in place without landlord's permission if you make good afterwards).

So, what is this "gemeinde"?
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