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I've hit the literary wall

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I have to get the draft of my book back to my publishing company in four days.

Don't get me wrong, this post isn't about laziness. I've spent months honing and refining and perfecting every sentence. But in the mean time, I've read books by so many other debut authors, who have been so impressive, and, honestly, I'm starting to doubt myself.

I'm looking at every sentence of my book, and I want to change it; my characters only seem two dimensional; my plot seems flat. Six months ago, I was waxing lyrical to my OH that it was the best thing I'd ever written! I don't know what happened to that confident person. I wish she was here today.
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You've done a better job than me.

After years of talking about it, I gave up my book after two chapters: less than a week's writing. It was shite.

Submit and let the editors do their worst. Good luck!
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First chapter please.
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It's stage fright, pure and simple. Let it go, you're too close to it.. becoming too critical and overly precious, no?

Which poet was it who only got her work published when a good friend fished her work out of a dustbin and got it safely out of the house?
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Re: I've hit the literary wall

Slammer added a short story to the ANA gig, I thought it was a great story only it was not the saccharine happy unicorns and rainbow story they wanted methinks, but then again I am a dark person
https://seat14c.com/future_ideas/new

Sod it gonna make it into a dark technopunk tale just for kicks and giggles.
What I want to say is go for it.

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Re: I've hit the literary wall

I spent my previous career writing for a living. Always to deadlines.

That feeling is always the feeling you get when a deadline is near.

It is possible to edit and re-edit something so much you make it worse.

You have to say - enough is enough!

If it's crap - someone will tell you. And give you a new deadline with plenty of time to fix it.

If it's good - you saved yourself the worry!

As we used to say: "Why is there never enough time to do it right. But there's always enough time to do it again?"

Leave it. It is good... enough.

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Dear all,

I have to get the draft of my book back to my publishing company in four days.

Don't get me wrong, this post isn't about laziness. I've spent months honing and refining and perfecting every sentence. But in the mean time, I've read books by so many other debut authors, who have been so impressive, and, honestly, I'm starting to doubt myself.

I'm looking at every sentence of my book, and I want to change it; my characters only seem two dimensional; my plot seems flat. Six months ago, I was waxing lyrical to my OH that it was the best thing I'd ever written! I don't know what happened to that confident person. I wish she was here today.

If you'd trust me, happy to be a beta reader. If you already have a publisher I'll bet dollars to doughnuts it's good. You just won't be able to see the literary woods from the circling sharks... or something. Swisstree is right: performance anxiety.

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After years of talking about it, I gave up my book after two chapters: less than a week's writing. It was shite.

Submit and let the editors do their worst. Good luck!

Only a week? Pshaw... I've been poking three for years... it turns out I'm a massive wuss...

Dust it off and have another crack. Try it in a different style /genre. Jim Butcher (Dresden Files ) apparently only hit gold after his writing teacher suggested he try the Noir genre for his wizard protagonist.
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Re: I've hit the literary wall

If you're not self-publishing, surely the agent / publisher will evaluate it first and hand it to an editor? No? They'll publish only if/when it's good enough.

If you are self-publishing, your judgment may well be right. Every self-published book I've come across has been terrible. The obvious answer is to pay a professional editor to offer a critique. If they think it's salvageable, take their advice on how to fix it -- or pay them to do it. Not cheap though.
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If you're not self-publishing, surely the agent / publisher will evaluate it first and hand it to an editor? No? They'll publish only if/when it's good enough.

If you are self-publishing, your judgment may well be right. Every self-published book I've come across has been terrible. The obvious answer is to pay a professional editor to offer a critique. If they think it's salvageable, take their advice on how to fix it -- or pay them to do it. Not cheap though.
Give Just One Damned Thing After Another by Jodi Taylor a read. She self-published on Amazon around 4 years ago and there was not a single mis-step. She actually gave her first novel away for free with most reviewers expressing amazement that they hadn't had to pay for it. Legend has it that she's a bit of a technophobe and couldn't work out how to charge for it.

Something like 11 novels over three genres and 6 short stories later she's about to publish another in yet a different genre. She's had a "proper" publisher for a couple of years now, here and in the states.

EL James started writing her stuff on Twilight fan fic blogs before being asked to leave as it was too racy for the tweenagers.

It's possible to beat the odds, is what I'm saying.
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After years of talking about it, I gave up my book after two chapters: less than a week's writing. It was shite.
Keep going, you're only oiling the pen. You have to wade through the shite to get to the beauty.. you'll write a cracking chapter 8, hit the ground running and whip the thing into shape.

Far too talented, DB, to stop.. we need to send someone over to rummage in your bins

Psst, Mathnut?!
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Give Just One Damned Thing After Another by Jodi Taylor a read. She self-published on Amazon around 4 years ago and there was not a single mis-step. She actually gave her first novel away for free with most reviewers expressing amazement that they hadn't had to pay for it. Legend has it that she's a bit of a technophobe and couldn't work out how to charge for it.

Something like 11 novels over three genres and 6 short stories later she's about to publish another in yet a different genre. She's had a "proper" publisher for a couple of years now, here and in the states.

EL James started writing her stuff on Twilight fan fic blogs before being asked to leave as it was too racy for the tweenagers.

It's possible to beat the odds, is what I'm saying.
Oh sure, I'm well aware there are several bestselling writers who started that way, but they are a tiny minority of the total number of self-published authors. You're absolutely right that the OP could indeed be in that cohort -- if she's self-publishing. We don't know if she is. If she's not, then as I said, she has less to worry about as a publisher would not have offered a deal unless they were convinced she had something.
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Oh sure, I'm well aware there are several bestselling writers who started that way, but they are a tiny minority of the total number of self-published authors. You're absolutely right that the OP could indeed be in that cohort -- if she's self-publishing. We don't know if she is. If she's not, then as I said, she has less to worry about as a publisher would not have offered a deal unless they were convinced she had something.
There isn't any ambiguity regarding the publishing route, it's in the first post !

I'm a reader, not a writer, but I'd echo what all the others say - pretty much every book I've read has big thanks to editors and reviewers. It's bound to feel a bit stale if you wrote it and then pored over it for six months - see what someone new, potentially professional thinks about it with a fresh mind.

And also - you've done all the hard work, what exactly do you have to lose now? Go for it!
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There isn't any ambiguity regarding the publishing route, it's in the first post !

I'm a reader, not a writer, but I'd echo what all the others say - pretty much every book I've read has big thanks to editors and reviewers. It's bound to feel a bit stale if you wrote it and then pored over it for six months - see what someone new, potentially professional thinks about it with a fresh mind.

And also - you've done all the hard work, what exactly do you have to lose now? Go for it!
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There isn't any ambiguity regarding the publishing route, it's in the first post !
No. "My publishing company" could mean either a company you've chosen to pay to publish your book, or a company who has commissioned you to write it.
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