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Re: Is the Mohrenkopf a racist piece of candy?

Well, this thread has become relevant again.

Migros has removed Dubler Mohrenkopf chocolate from their selection. Other grocery companies may follow.

The manufacturer of Dubler has taken a stand against Migros in that he finds them hypocritical. He's also of firm belief that his product's demand may grow due to a long-standing Swiss loyalty to the chocolate-covered sweets. He doesn't believe the name of his chocolate is really racist and won't change its branding.

I know many Swiss who go directly to the Dubler factory to buy their product. It's as Swiss as Toblerone.

https://www.watson.ch/schweiz/wirtsc...en-migros-bann
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Well, this thread has become relevant again.

Migros has removed Dubler Mohrenkopf chocolate from their selection. Other grocery companies may follow.

The manufacturer of Dubler has taken a stand against Migros in that he finds them hypocritical. He's also of firm belief that his product's demand may grow due to a long-standing Swiss loyalty to the chocolate-covered sweets. He doesn't believe the name of his chocolate is really racist and won't change its branding.

I know many Swiss who go directly to the Dubler factory to buy their product. It's as Swiss as Toblerone.

https://www.watson.ch/schweiz/wirtsc...en-migros-bann
A great opportunity for Migros to create a generic competitor.
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A great opportunity for Migros to create a generic competitor.

they already have quite a few...https://produkte.migros.ch/sortiment/supermarkt/lebensmittel/suessigkeiten/schokolade
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I know many Swiss who go directly to the Dubler factory to buy their product. It's as Swiss as Toblerone.
German or Danish originially. Who knows. Not Swiss.

Every other country's manufacturers managed to change the names many, many years ago. Not sure what point Dubler are trying to make.

Maybe there is no point and they've kept it as it is up to now as there is no pressure to change from the consumers or distributors - up to now...
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Re: Is the Mohrenkopf a racist piece of candy?

And what about Migros' Blanc Battu
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......I know many Swiss who go directly to the Dubler factory to buy their product. It's as Swiss as Toblerone.

https://www.watson.ch/schweiz/wirtsc...en-migros-bann
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German or Danish originially. Who knows. Not Swiss.....
Definitely Swiss. Since 1946.

It's a silly argument. It's obviously an absolutely outdated name for this product. And why do white people fight to keep this name?!?
The product has nothing to do with Africa, I've not had one offered or seen in all my travels. Probably when it was invented, one guy said "let's call it Mohrenkopf" and the others went "yea, har, har".

A black head is a very disgusting thing some people have to deal with in their faces. I love those chocolate things and don't want to be reminded of people's skin problems.

Dubler has adapted their production to today's demand. I really don't see why they can just adapt the name too.
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Re: Is the Mohrenkopf a racist piece of candy?

Why not use the politically correct name Schwedenbombe, like they call it in Germany?
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Why not use the politically correct name Schwedenbombe, like they call it in Germany?
I always thought this was the "Schwedenbombe" but you're right about the German use of it.



"So you are saying" the Swedes are an aggressive populace with little substance?
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"So you are saying" the Swedes are an aggressive populace with little substance?
I was more thinking about Sweden as the most reputable country in the world but realize now that I've entered a minefield
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And what about Migros' Blanc Battu
The historical connotation linked to the word «mohrenkopf» is awful.
Making meaningless comparisons could be considered as belittling.
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Definitely Swiss. Since 1946.
The Dubler ones yes but not the original cake/biscuit which was either German or Danish in origin.

We had them as kids in the U.K. - Tunnock's Tea cakes.

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The Dubler ones yes but not the original cake/biscuit which was either German or Danish in origin.

We had them as kids in the U.K. - Tunnock's Tea cakes.

Never came across that brand, we just knew them generically as Mallows. IIRC ours were from Cadburys.
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Definitely Swiss. Since 1946.
According to this, they go back to 1913 in the US and possibly back to 1829 in Germany. Much older than Dubler.

The name has been well dodgy in a number of countries.
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Re: Is the Mohrenkopf a racist piece of candy?

@stlemans, what does your groan mean to say ?
Do you simply not know what «mohrenkopf» stands for ?
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It's a silly argument. It's obviously an absolutely outdated name for this product. And why do white people fight to keep this name?!?
I'm with you. Wikipedia claims the name Mohrenkopf is a translation of the French Tête de Nègre. French bakeries stopped using that name. If the French speakers can change then surely German speakers can too?

A few other interesting bits here that I found while searching:
http://franconaija.blogspot.com/2014...ke-called.html
http://pussilla.blogspot.com/2012/03...-chocolat.html
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Re: Is the Mohrenkopf a racist piece of candy?

Many Swiss are, for whatever reason, emotionally attached to the name. The amount of criticism by locals towards Migros is quite surprising to me. My own opinion is that the name should have been changed decades ago but when you have a successful product with brand loyalty, you don't change a winning horse.

Good for Migros and the other brands. Dubler should just change the name to "Dublers" and get on with it. Any resistance to name change proves he may be a profitable and successful businessman but also a stubborn Dubel /Tubel.
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Re: Is the Mohrenkopf a racist piece of candy?

So now the Austrians have to change their beer name?



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So now the Austrians have to change their beer name?



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Maybe, at the very least they should ditch the caricature image that goes with it.
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Re: Is the Mohrenkopf a racist piece of candy?

What about this well-known restaurant in Niederdorfstrasse, in Zürich?



If that offends you, how about the Zum Mohrenkopf Restaurant in Kiel, Germany? Complaints should be directed to its owner:



I do understand that some language can be offensive to some people. But I also feel that some people go out of their way to be offended. The current situation where "Gone With The Wind" and "The Germans" episode of Fawlty Towers have been banned, albeit briefly, and reinstated only with warnings and advice about the racially offensive content, illustrates this perfectly.
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