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Re: Is the Mohrenkopf a racist piece of candy?

Well, I find Yorkshire Pudding offensive, not to mention Lancashire Hot Pot...
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Old 13.06.2020, 13:52
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Well, I find Yorkshire Pudding offensive, not to mention Lancashire Hot Pot...
Me too, because Yorkshire pudding is not a dessert! Deceptive, I tell you!
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Old 13.06.2020, 14:04
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Well, I find Yorkshire Pudding offensive, not to mention Lancashire Hot Pot...
That's more akin to a Madras curry (sorry for being so colonial, I meant Chenai curry).

Perhaps something more similar to the Mohrenkopf debacle would be if English Black pudding, so named because of the colour of the sausage due to the cooked blood, was called 'Black Man's Willy' or something similar.
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Perhaps something more similar to the Mohrenkopf debacle would be if English Black pudding, so named because of the colour of the sausage due to the cooked blood, was called 'Black Man's Willy' or something similar.
You willy had to go there.
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I, as a kid and now, never associated a dark skinned person with the "Schwarze Maa". I rather had the impression it was either a/the Bölima (child abductor/pervert) with a black coat or than a chimney sweeper looking for more child workforce See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_schwarzen_Br%C3%BCder

To translate Mohrenkopf literally and think they actually represent the head of a black person is as ridiculous as to take the following literally: corn dog, pasta alfredo, angel food cake, bloody mary, berliner, and specially Swiss roll, Swiss chard, and Swiss cheese. Whereas the last one is a total insult.
The comparisons made in this post (that many approved of) was the original response to the OP.

To put «mohrenkopf» on the same level as a «berliner» for instance is to refuse to recognize the meaning of «mohrenkopf» and all it stands for.

We cannot change history, nor is it wise to «clean it up», but we can do better going forward.
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Re: Is the Mohrenkopf a racist piece of candy?

....and the very fact some refuse to see the issue, or do not understand the difference is the critical point, the crux of the matter.
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Re: Is the Mohrenkopf a racist piece of candy?

I'm still not convinced that the name conveys an intention to offend, rather than just a name that was applied in naive innocence at a time that people had other worries.

I wonder how many other names may at their root, if you dig deep enough, be offensive. Many names, be they brands, or place names, or surnames even, we accept at face value without thinking where they come from or what they may mean, or have meant in the past. Or could mean if analysed with a certain intent.

Let us take the Starbucks logo for example. An awkwardly styled mermaid, probably hailing to the days that coffee came by ship, and thus representing the figurehead of a sailing ship. Now if you consider the trade triangle, the same ship that brought us coffee would on another leg of its triangular round trip have been a slave ship. That thing on your disposable coffee cup is the figurehead of a slave ship.

Where is the outrage?
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Re: Is the Mohrenkopf a racist piece of candy?

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What about this well-known restaurant in Niederdorfstrasse, in Zürich?



If that offends you, how about the Zum Mohrenkopf Restaurant in Kiel, Germany? Complaints should be directed to its owner:

I do understand that some language can be offensive to some people. But I also feel that some people go out of their way to be offended. The current situation where "Gone With The Wind" and "The Germans" episode of Fawlty Towers have been banned, albeit briefly, and reinstated only with warnings and advice about the racially offensive content, illustrates this perfectly.
The café in the Niederdort is in the process of changing it's name, I read in some newspaper (yeah, well an online one ).
I don't remember that café from the times I spent 24/7 in the Niederdorf so it must have been founded in a time when people should have been alert.

I fully agree with you. On the other hand I'm not attached to "traditional" names. So if people of the "matching to the name" colour feel they should be changed, I guess they should be changed. It should definitely not be the decision of the people with the not-matching-the-problem-colour.

To rewrite history or ban stories/films/books from earlier times is only denying the problem imo. The point is to be alert now and produce politically correct stuff from now on.
Gotta say, politically correct has become a very rubbery term though and stretches places where one can only shake one's head. But that's the same with the male/female phrasing.

I find it much more interesting, how many things are named "Mohren ..." here in Europe. Very, very old things from a time, when Africa was soooo far away. I wouldn't mind reading a psychological study about that.
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Old 13.06.2020, 15:27
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You willy had to go there.
And while we're at it, calling one's son Willy is very much politically incorrect, should become illegal and millions and millions of Europeans should be renamed at once.
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Re: Is the Mohrenkopf a racist piece of candy?

So good neither I nor anyone from my family is into that "racist piece of candy".

We like brownies though. My mom's recipe.

At the end of the day.......each to their own..
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The fact that every other European nation that has them has changed the name to something else (lots over twenty years ago) apart from the German-speaking part of Switzerland tells you something about the Swiss-Germans' in itself.

Although I've never eaten one, we've got a packet in the cupboard which weren't there yesterday so it must have been a gift from a grandfather.

They're from Migros and called Party-kisses on the packet so I guess over time, the Mohrenkopf name will disappear.
The Mohrenkopf is really nice to eat. But one is enough. Heres a good video-how its made.

I heard Migros keeps the white chocolate Mohrenkopf in its sortiment For sure some Mohr's were albino

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...ature=emb_logo

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Re: Is the Mohrenkopf a racist piece of candy?

Too sweet, like many non homemade desserts.

I just made some Milchreis for my kids, they couldn't be more happy. One of my childhood's favourites, managed to pass it on.
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Too sweet, like many non homemade desserts.
I think they should have a contest. Who can eat the most Mohrenköpfe?
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Too sweet, like many non homemade desserts.

I just made some Milchreis for my kids, they couldn't be more happy. One of my childhood's favourites, managed to pass it on.
Yes Milchreis is great if its made properly. With cardamon deoration.

I like Indian Kheer

https://www.indianhealthyrecipes.com...awal-ki-kheer/
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Re: Is the Mohrenkopf a racist piece of candy?

Re Fawlty Towers and the Germans episode - colleague of my husband's is German and thinks it's hilarious, he has it on DVD.
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Yes Milchreis is great if its made properly. With cardamon deoration.

I like Indian Kheer
Or cinnamon and apple sauce. I never tasted Indian Kheer, might try it out one day. I'll ask our friend if he can cook it..

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I think they should have a contest. Who can eat the most Mohrenköpfe?
Argh....the amount of bacteria its white filling would feed..... Would equal the fillings needed done by the dentist.

Would you be willing to pay for additional DH visits and dental check-ups?
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Re: Is the Mohrenkopf a racist piece of candy?

Interested in the pics of Tunnocks Teacakes, we buy 72 at a time from Edinburgh Airport for OH's work colleagues, they think they are fab and will even resort to hiding them in their desk drawers so he has to lock them up and ration them. Not as sickly as the sweet being discussed here, apparently they all like the biscuit layer on the bottom. A Spanish colleague of his likes the dark chocolate covered ones in the blue and silver wrapper. Have to admit I could kill for a Tunnock's Caramel Wafer at the moment, but my supply was exhausted months ago.
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The Mohrenkopf is really nice to eat. But one is enough.....
I'm afraid I'm a glutton when it comes to these things. One is definitely NOT enough.

I'm normally not into very sweet things and found out - for me - that the Budget-Migros ones are the best. Too bad I can only buy them in packs of 12.
I feel they're less sweet. But probably I'm just telling myself that. I'll stick to it though.
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I'm afraid I'm a glutton when it comes to these things. One is definitely NOT enough.

I'm normally not into very sweet things and found out - for me - that the Budget-Migros ones are the best. Too bad I can only buy them in packs of 12.
I feel they're less sweet. But probably I'm just telling myself that. I'll stick to it though.
My grandmum gave me a pack of mini ones, and I noticed they’ve been past the date for almost a month. I’m trying to decide if I can still eat them without problems
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My grandmum gave me a pack of mini ones, and I noticed they’ve been past the date for almost a month. I’m trying to decide if I can still eat them without problems
could be risky ( they contain egg products )
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