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Re: Is the Mohrenkopf a racist piece of candy?

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Would that also happen (and work) if the child was white?
Does black work for you then?
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Does black work for you then?
Anything that stands out will do. Could be your size, hairdo, clothes, beaky nose, and of course skin color.

You didn't answer the question.
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Old 19.06.2020, 20:43
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Anything that stands out will do. Could be your size, hairdo, clothes, beaky nose, and of course skin color.

You didn't answer the question.
I didn't understand the question.
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I didn't understand the question.
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It doesn't really make much sense to me for white people to try to say what isn't offensive to black people.
That's not what this is about. Racism is about the speaker, feeling offended is about the listener or the subject.

Mohr are North Africans and Middle Easterners. Brown people, not black. Nobody from south of the Sahara, be that themselves or their ancestors, has reason to feel addressed even if you falsely believe that Mohrenkopf is racist.
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Old 19.06.2020, 21:04
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The only problem with your assertion is that neither the term nor the sweet is racist.
The sweet is not racist. The people using and defending the name are. Kapish?
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Urs, are you really comparing a pair of glasses to a brown sweet with known racial connotations? Asking if glasses are racist? The question you posed is so incomprehensibly stupid that it took me a few seconds to be able to properly formulate my thoughts when I read it.

The absolute lack of emotional awareness you dispay on a frighteninglyregular basis is cimply staggering and I can only imagine how deeply awkward you are to interact with in real life. If you brought this kind of bizzarre logic to this topic in any social group I know that contained anything approaching mature and intelligent adults then your arguments would be utterly destroyed, shamed and laughed at in any conversation.

You are truly an embarassment to yourself, a fool, and you don't even realise it.
Thank you for making my day

And do keep posting your puerile nonsense
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Old 19.06.2020, 21:21
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The sweet is not racist. The people using and defending the name are. Kapish?
To help you understand the Swiss, don't disregard Urs Max's posts. They reflect a large portion of the Swiss population.
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Old 19.06.2020, 21:36
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Mohr are North Africans and Middle Easterners. Brown people, not black. Nobody from south of the Sahara, be that themselves or their ancestors, has reason to feel addressed even if you falsely believe that Mohrenkopf is racist.
Ahh, like this then:




Translated, this Dubler-Mohrenkopf seller said:

It is true that I am is more politically right-wing. But: "I'm definitely not a racist!" And: “I was surprised at how positive the reactions were. People even took photos with me. »

Here
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Old 19.06.2020, 21:38
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The sweet is not racist. The people using and defending the name are. Kapish?
What language is kapish?

Sounds racist to me.

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What language is kapish?

Sounds racist to me.

Tom
Bastardized Italian and then misspelled to match phonics because capiche is too complicated.
https://www.quora.com/Why-is-it-rude...their-sentence
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To help you understand the Swiss, don't disregard Urs Max's posts. They reflect a large portion of the Swiss population.
Judging by the readers comments below this article on the subject, I think, sadly, that you are right.
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Old 19.06.2020, 22:07
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It doesn't really make much sense to me for white people to try to say what isn't offensive to black people.
It doesn't really make much sense to me for newcomers to try to say what is offensive to the locals.
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It doesn't really make much sense to me for newcomers to try to say what is offensive to the locals.
That really doesn't make logical sense. The predoinantly white locals of countries like Switzerland are the ones who often need to have it pointed out to them as they are often blinkered (like the Dutch with "Black Pete") to what has been normalized in their society over the course of many decades or centuries. It is obvious to anyone with even half a brain that Mohrenkopf/Blackamoor at least has racial connotations.

Mohrenkpf = Blackamoors head
Blackamoor = stylized imagery of black people, often Afican males, sometimes in servile positions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blacka...ecorative_arts)

The original intention of the word doesn't matter... what matters is the word now in the current political climate. The Mohrenkopf symbolizes a black persons head and if kids are being called "Mohrenkopf" as an insult then it has to stop. There is no good reason to have anything, not least an item of food enjoyed by children, named after specific racial traits.

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Nice racist comment
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Nice racist comment
Which race have I discriminated against?

If anything Musicchock’s previous reference to all Swiss people as some homogenous blob of opinion gets close to your description.

I might not have been here long, but it’s clear the city and countryside have very differing opinions on foreign people, on average. Anyone who espouses racism is neither culture nor modern.
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Bastardized Italian and then misspelled to match phonics because capiche is too complicated.
https://www.quora.com/Why-is-it-rude...their-sentence
It's actually "capisci"
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Nice racist comment
I think this is even better

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The hypocrisy, arrogance and self-righteousness some demonstrate is astounding. Even more that they actually see themselves as part of the solution - however that's supposed to look like.
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The hypocrisy, arrogance and self-righteousness some demonstrate is astounding. Even more that they actually see themselves as part of the solution - however that's supposed to look like.
Good effort. Not quite enough to defend racism, but we'll give you credit for trying. Yep, you're wrong. Have a good weekend
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The original intention of the word doesn't matter... what matters is the word now in the current political climate. The Mohrenkopf symbolizes a black persons head and if kids are being called "Mohrenkopf" as an insult then it has to stop. There is no good reason to have anything, not least an item of food enjoyed by children, named after specific racial traits.
Kids are not not being called Mohrenkopf because kids have no idea what it really means. Do you have kids? As far as my experiences go they have no idea those sweets are more than just sweets. Not even OP actually implied that. I think the racism some kids exhibit here (and towards OP's child) has other explanations/roots.

I'd take that very seriously and discuss it openly with teachers, the school's director etc and not necessarily start a thread on EF which will likely make the brand even more popular (see how adverse psychology functioned in Laderach's case). I have friends whose children are in very diverse schools and are picked on by other (foreign) kids for being....foreign. The more they are from a national group, the more mean and rude they are towards "outsiders". Yeah, this is a reason we pay a damn high amount with housing... to avoid these "experiences". Kids can be very cruel. If it's not one's skin colour they find something else to torment their victims. A bit like some "adults" on EF. Fortunately most people are nice and relatively well educated irl.

@OP

You shouldn't leave things where they are....with your daughter I mean. Track down the little shites that tormented your daughter like that and talk with their parents, with the school, social worker assigned to the school, propose an anti-bullying and anti-racism policy and make sure you're listened to and heard.
Go to the next level of management/decision if necessary.

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