Make your mind up. It either has racial connotations or it doesn't.

Not necessarily. Moor is not a racial slur per se. It's the official term to describe Muslims who inhabited the Maghreb region and parts of Southern Europe. The original terminology from Germany and France is definitely racist.

Who cares about 3rd world countries?

Tom

No, a "local" is someone born and raised here.

My wife is a local, I am not, but we are both Swiss.

Tom

You're wrong. There were some Swiss who did use Mohrenkopf to describe a black person. They also think they were funny when they did it. Humour is so subjective.

Dubler could always create a white chocolate equivalent of his product and call it Bleichgesicht Kopf. I actually think the Swiss would be OK with that.

Local:

noun
an inhabitant of a particular area or neighbourhood.

Lots more defintions. Non of them state 'born and raised' as a prerequisite for being local but of course, being born and raised somewhere does mean you are a local.

I'm actually amused by all these attempts to exclude people and opinions on the basis of not being local/native speakers of/etc etc etc.

Meantime Migros and other companies will take their own decisions and us, customers, have nothing else to do but to choose for ourselves.

Well, we could debate the various merits and intentions origins until the cows come home, but what matters is how it is peceived today in this political climate.

If you have to weigh up the importance of preserving the name of a candy with racial connotations vs changing the name to ensure no-one feels bad a result of those racial connotations then it is an easy choice to make. No-one should ever have to feel that kind of hurt as the result of a trivial food item, we can just easily remove these things without 'harming the local culture'.

Now, as for Black Peter in The Netherlands.. that in comparison is going to be tough to change without upsetting a hell of a lot of people.

Mohr is also a surname in Switzerland and Germany .

Possibly reflecting that their ancestors may have been dark skinned a long time ago.

The English surname Morris may have the same origin.

Shall we force people to change their names

If a Herr Mohr were to make chocolate candies , and sell them as Mohr’s xyz , and people were to take offense, they would be taking offence at his name, no ?

Herr Schwarzkopf seems to manage it with little controversy.

Please attempt a better troll next time. At least i hope it was a troll, because if not. Wow.

Hi there, welcome to EF, where we have a lot of members with a lot of different opinions. Perhaps some are more informed than others about certain topics. But to assume you have to "know" stuff to post here? Nah.

I had never even heard of this candy until this thread was started a few years ago. I've seen these chocolate-covered mousse things in shops in Bern but I can't recall seeing them named Mohrenkopf here.

I find this to be an interesting thread and topic. How much historical stuff should we leave alone simply because it's historical and how much should change with the times? Seems there's no simple answer to every situation.

There were some Swiss somewhere. . .that is neither here nor there OG. Fact is, it's not being used at present times, other than for the candy. On the other hand, the derogatory "N-word" I've heard numerous times, which would be legitimally considered hate speech. The issue now is, if we're talking semantics on such futile levels, where do we stop? In theory, one would have to go until the cross from the Swiss flag is removed, which is bordering on the ridiculous. All in all, I believe that this will create an absolute negative effect, meaning that kids who didn't know the meaning of Mohrenkopf will start using it in a derogatory way.

Having an opinion is fine. Pretending to be an authority is quite another thing.

Yes amogles, that example you just made is exactly the same context as this example of the Mohrenkopf sweet. I think we call all lay this issue to rest now that you have single-handedly removed all doubt from the matter.

Dripping sarcasm aside, you are just inventing a scenario that does not exist. Mr Mohr did not invent the Mohrenkopf candy and then name it after himself. You understand that... right?

Can you please explain how you can present that as "fact"? Or is it a "strong suspicion"?

Thread on Reddit discussing it from 2 years ago... https://www.reddit.com/r/Switzerland...he_mohrenkopf/

Some quotes from the "I don't like it" crowd, which seems to include mostly Swiss...

So logically speaking, to say it has no racial connotations is just wrong. It is a simple thing to change the name of a candy, other countries have recognised and done it and it should just be done asap in CH without any additional fuss.

Some time ago there was a dispute here on EF re. KKK costumes being worn by a bunch of teenagers in a German canton during a carnival. I asked my neighbour's daughter who was of a similar age at the time what she thinks about it all and she pointed out that some kids in Appenzell might not know it's racist....she said it partially joking, even adding some people think very low of other/certain cantons. Kids are smarter than we think. Those who use certain words as racial slurs would find something else to bully and to diminish. imho It is a question of education or common sense or lack thereof, I think.

Not really. In fact it's the opposite, that's what those -ism labels are for.

Judging by the Laderach thread effect on people.....high time to taste it!

In my country it´s called (or maybe was called) a negerzoen (negro´s kiss)