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I^ve just learned people of color. Is that dated already?
No. It's been in use for a long time as far as I know and not only in English.
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Old 22.06.2020, 10:23
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Mulatto? (Another outdated term, but one that specifically describes that situation.)
Actually, no, it was something else... More like a slang term, but one I had never heard before. (Though obviously nothing derogatory since it was used to refer to her own daughter). The woman is Swiss, so I thought maybe it was even the direct English translation of a German word that is typically used for that here. It was a bit similar to the word "mixed" but it wasn't that word.
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Old 22.06.2020, 10:35
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Youíd rather not listen to what people find offensive and would rather mock instead of learn.
I always find it rather odd when people confuse disagreement with unwillingness/ inability to learn. Happens a lot on the internets or, sadly, in left politics.
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I always find it rather odd when people confuse disagreement with unwillingness/ inability to learn. Happens a lot on the internets or, sadly, in left politics.
Iím not sure there can be disagreement about what I and others find offensive. Thatís not a point for debate, itís a fact.

Itís up to each individual whether they take this on board and try and be polite or ignore it and carry on upsetting people.
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Old 22.06.2020, 10:40
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I have tried to be as nice as I can about this, but you are just proving my point.

Youíd rather not listen to what people find offensive and would rather mock instead of learn.
Bull ony. Youíre here for the thrill of provoking and insulting through passive aggressive posts. You had the chance to shine but now youíre just raining on this parade of black lives movement.

How disappointing.
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Old 22.06.2020, 10:44
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I have tried to be as nice as I can about this, but you are just proving my point.

You’d rather not listen to what people find offensive and would rather mock instead of learn.
You have not at all tried to be nice .

Isn’t it ironical how people can get so offensive while trying to tell other people what is offensive and what isn’t ?

If you are genuinely against offensiveness , how about leading by example ?
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The 'master race' is, and always has been, the ones in the position of power to call themselves thus and it has changed throughout history. Greeks, Romans, Europeans... in the unforseeable future it may be different.
In the very foreseeable future it may be the one(s) that will be more advanced technologically.....
And since some "races" spend way too much time with deciding which term is correct or not, or with which politics is correct or incorrect.....I'll let you guess which one will be the "master race"...(hint: not Europeans )
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Old 22.06.2020, 11:02
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I’m not sure there can be disagreement about what I and others find offensive. That’s not a point for debate, it’s a fact.

It’s up to each individual whether they take this on board and try and be polite or ignore it and carry on upsetting people.
I agree, I don't doubt your feeling. The debate is about wheter those must have an impact on public life or not.

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"And since some "races" spend way too much time with deciding which term is correct or not, or with which politics is correct or incorrect.....I'll let you guess which one will be the "master race"...(hint: not Europeans )"
Agree, but as with everything here, that was a trend that started in the US.
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Old 22.06.2020, 11:07
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Bull ony. Youíre here for the thrill of provoking and insulting through passive aggressive posts. You had the chance to shine but now youíre just raining on this parade of black lives movement.

How disappointing.
Incredible. I'm genuinely speechless.

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You have not at all tried to be nice .

Isnít it ironical how people can get so offensive while trying to tell other people what is offensive and what isnít ?

If you are genuinely against offensiveness , how about leading by example ?
Sometimes, when there are those who refuse to listen to reason, the only way to get through to them is a bit of a shake.

I get it, the folks on here are comfortable in their bubbles and probably have precisely zero interaction with people of colour who aren't in subservient positions - but hey guys, even people serving you food and bagging your groceries are people worthy of respect.
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Old 22.06.2020, 11:27
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See Amogles, this is what happens when you try your best to be civil. Despite that, you get horrific personal abuse.
Sorry but don't play the victim here. You dished out far worse in this thread or others than this "horrific personal abuse" you got from chuff . Do you want me to look them up.

Hint: People generally don't like to be called racists.
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Old 22.06.2020, 11:29
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Sorry but don't play the victim here. You dished out far worse in this thread or others than this "horrific personal abuse" you got from chuff . Do you want me to look them up.

Hint: People generally don't like to be called racists.
Calling people using racist language racists isn't really abuse, is it?

If you don't like being called a racist, stop doing things racists do would be my suggestion.

Ganging up on an "uppity" poster isn't a great look either.
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Old 22.06.2020, 11:33
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See Amogles, this is what happens when you try your best to be civil. Despite that, you get horrific personal abuse.
You fully deserve the flak for what you posted and I clarified my post a little further above. You have:
  • Called even those people clearly against racism, racist
  • Tried to lecture people on the correct "up to date" terms to use and then called them "intentionally hurtful"
  • Suggested all black people in CH that we would know or meet are "subservient"
  • Again (for good measure, I assume) suggested we were racist for not agreeing with you

Maybe later when you calm down you read your posts back to yourself and feel a bit embarassed.

Actually, I am now more than a little suspicious that you are indeed a dupe account of an ex or current member. Your level of familiarity and aggressive involvement in the arguments borders on the troll-ish and is generally only seen in longer-term members, not 1 month newbies. Even if it's not true, I predict a burn out and flounce before too long if you keep on at this rate.
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You fully deserve the mockery for what you posted and I clarified my post a little further above. You have:
  • Called even those people clearly against racism, racist
  • Tried to lecture people on the correct "up to date" terms to use and then called them "intentionally hurtful"
  • Suggested all black people in CH that we would know or meet are "subservient"

Maybe later when you calm down you read your posts back to yourself and feel a bit embarassed. Actually, I am now more than a little suspicious that you are indeed a dupe account of an ex or current member. Your level of familiarity and aggressive involvement in the arguments borders on the troll-ish and is generally only seen in longer-term members, not 1 month newbies.
Perhaps because it is a personally emotive subject you feel I have been aggressive, when I believe I have been assertive. To take your points one by one:

[*]Called even those people clearly against racism, racist - just because you say your are against racism or believe yourself to be, doesn't make it so. Watch any video of confederate flag waving Trump fans at rallies...to a man they all say "I'm not racist, but...".
[*]Tried to lecture people on the correct "up to date" terms to use and then called them "intentionally hurtful" - don't twist things. I did update people on acceptable terminology and said anyone not adopting it is being intentionally hurtful now they know. That's pure logic, not sure what your argument with that can be?
[*]Suggested all black people in CH that we would know or meet are "subservient" - yes yes, I'm sure you have legions of black friends and indeed some of your best friends are black.
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Old 22.06.2020, 11:51
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Actually, I am now more than a little suspicious that you are indeed a dupe account of an ex or current member. Your level of familiarity and aggressive involvement in the arguments borders on the troll-ish and is generally only seen in longer-term members, not 1 month newbies. Even if it's not true, I predict a burn out and flounce before too long if you keep on at this rate.
To me itís been likely since the very beginning that HM is a probably a account . And probably of one of the people who not long ago were accusing others of being dupe accounts . The level of aggressiveness and knowledge of previous conflicts is not really credible for a newbie
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To me itís been likely since the very beginning that HM is a probably a account . And probably of one of the people who not long ago were accusing others of being dupe accounts . The level of aggressiveness and knowledge of previous conflicts is not really credible for a newbie
Unable to counter the argument, so try to discredit the poster. Classy.
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To me itís been likely since the very beginning that HM is a probably a account . And probably of one of the people who not long ago were accusing others of being dupe accounts . The level of aggressiveness and knowledge of previous conflicts is not really credible for a newbie
There are an awful lot of those about now, whether he is one of them remains to be seen but Iíll reserve judgment for now until Iíve seen a bit more of him and on other topics of discussion. He does seem very passionate about this one.
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I merely suggested that for the majority of people on this thread (and i presume you are one of the number, as a raw nerve seems to have been touched) the majority of "social" interactions with black people will be ones where they are performing a task for them. Do you interact with black people more as friends or more often are they in a service role? Be honest now.
I thought you said it was "people of colour"? Or are you making it up as you go along?
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Unfortunately, when you are backed into a corner, you become most unpleasant. Please do not quote me out of context to try and score points.

I merely suggested that for the majority of people on this thread (and i presume you are one of the number, as a raw nerve seems to have been touched) the majority of "social" interactions with black people will be ones where they are performing a task for them. Do you interact with black people more as friends or more often are they in a service role? Be honest now.
I don't measure myself or my opinion by my interactions with people of any colour, it is completely irrelevant as to the numerical proportion of black people I know who work in any industry. Only you see this as important to serve your argument.

And by the way... you said subservient. Do you know what subservient means? Using that word in that context was completely demeaning to anyone working in any service role, regardless of race. They are normal people doing an essential job and if you need that explaining to you then you are even more misguided than I thought.

If your intention in this thread has been to make yourself look like a complete plonker, then you have achieved, nay exceeded, that goal admirably.
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I don't measure myself or my opinion by my interactions with people of any colour, it is completely irrelevant as to the numerical proportion of black people I know who work in any industry. Only you see this as important to serve your argument.

And by the way... you said subservient. Do you know what subservient means? Using that word in that context was completely demeaning to anyone working in any service role, regardless of race. They are normal people doing an essential job and if you need that explaining to you then you are even more misguided than I thought.

If your intention in this thread has been to make yourself look like a complete plonker, then you have achieved, nay exceeded, that goal admirably.
I didn't use that word unintentionally.

If you are prepared to continue racially insulting people (you seem fine using coloured, despite the context and explanations) you cannot view the insultee as anything other than beneath you.
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I get it, the folks on here are comfortable in their bubbles and probably have precisely zero interaction with people of colour who aren't in subservient positions - but hey guys, even people serving you food and bagging your groceries are people worthy of respect.
Congratulations. You've got the attention you desired. Now let's hope you get the ban you deserve.
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