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Re: Is the Mohrenkopf a racist piece of candy?

It's interesting to see that many of the ones complaining about the use of racist names in (Swiss)German language, do not seem have a problem to label all Swiss people or Switzerland as a whole in a negative way.

But hey, you can complain again - and it is not even Friday yet. Have fun.
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A smart kid would ask that if they sold them to us, and they also came to rob our people on our shores why they are only angry at us...

Such would already require a teacher who is not left-minded and is willing to teach that both have been victim and perpetrator, unfortunately in this PC climate he probably would lose his job...

Edit: As for your Edit, feel free to narrow your sightings, just don't forget that if you do so there's more then what your eyes do see...
Firstly, I have literally no idea what your threat means. It's probably against forum rules though.

Secondly, read through the following link. You'll find a list of what the Swiss did to fund and enable the slave trade:

http://www.louverture.ch/BUCH/materi...T/holleng.html
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It's interesting to see that many of the ones complaining about the use of racist names in (Swiss)German language, do not seem have a problem to label all Swiss people or Switzerland as a whole in a negative way.

But hey, you can complain again - and it is not even Friday yet. Have fun.
Who exactly is doing that?
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It's interesting to see that many of the ones complaining about the use of racist names in (Swiss)German language, do not seem have a problem to label all Swiss people or Switzerland as a whole in a negative way.

But hey, you can complain again - and it is not even Friday yet. Have fun.
Well this is progress of a sort, at least we have someone that admits it's racist. (yes cheap shot, sorry, I expect you slipped there )

I am Swiss by the way, so is my wife and my children. I'm also able to accept when my home country or my adopted country have done negative things in the past. It doesn't mean that the Swiss (or Brits) of today share the guilt of their ancestors. It's not right to deny any of it though, or perpetuate the idea of it, even through confectionery.
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I am Swiss by the way
That explains your attitude. You are over-integrating...
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That explains your attitude. You are over-integrating...
Been here since 2001. I'm not sure my wife would agree with you (I'm in a Verien now at least )

Plus, coming from the UK, I'm totally used to hearing about what the Brits did during the slave trade. If I had never left the UK and another English man tried to tell me that Golliwogs on my marmalade are totally fine and the slaves only had themselves to blame, I'd give a similar response to what I've given here.

I have the feeling that a lot of the groans I've received are because some here are not yet used to having their country associated with the slave trade. It does take some getting used to.
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Firstly, I have literally no idea what your threat means. It's probably against forum rules though.
Threat?

You were not the most bright kid in class I guess.
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Threat?

You were not the most bright kid in class I guess.
Ad hominems are against the forum rules.

Before you continue, please read this thread:

https://www.englishforum.ch/announce...ial-posts.html
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Edit: As for your Edit, feel free to narrow your sightings, just don't forget that if you do so there's more then what your eyes do see...
Ahem, pot calling the kettle black....
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Re: Is the Mohrenkopf a racist piece of candy?

Now that your claim has been shown wrong, let's go BTT:

Are you the one who explains to me how and why Mohrenkopf should be considered racist? Apparently you think it is.

Mind, this is an honest question. I'm open to persuasion but for that you (or whoever does the explaining) need to provide a reasonable amount of logic.
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Ad hominems are against the forum rules.
Using a lack of ability to understand written text to accuse people of threatening you is however perfectly fine in your world...
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Ahem, pot calling the kettle black....
Explain.

With a reference to the exact wordings please.
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I have the feeling that a lot of the groans I've received are because some here are not yet used to having their country associated with the slave trade. It does take some getting used to.
Or maybe because of your lack to differentiate between the Swiss and Switzerland and some Swiss banks and Swiss individuals.
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Now that your claim has been shown wrong, let's go BTT:

Are you the one who explains to me how and why Mohrenkopf should be considered racist? Apparently you think it is.

Mind, this is an honest question. I'm open to persuasion but for that you (or whoever does the explaining) need to provide a reasonable amount of logic.
The claim that Germans still use the word Mohrenkopf? well that's debatable. There's a wikipedia page about the name, but I'm not sure that means the word is in common use in Germany. I could ask a few of my German friends here in Switzerland for their opinion.

I've explained the link between the name Mohrenkopf with the colonisation and enslavement of African people (with citation) at the time, and I've shown the Swiss involvement in said slave trade (with citation). I would think this should already be enough.
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Explain.

With a reference to the exact wordings please.
If I did that, I would prolonge the miserable life of this thread and I have no intention to do so. Some people will never change their views. Some things don't deserve an answer. Simple.

If your intention was to explain why OP is wrong, just please, let me assure you that you succeded the opposite. At least in my case, not that it would count for anything.
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Or maybe because of your lack to differentiate between the Swiss and Switzerland and some Swiss banks and Swiss individuals.
And yet, the Swiss government allowed it and the country as a whole benefited from the generated wealth. I didn't find anything about the families being punished or the banks being shut down.
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If I did that, I would prolonge the miserable life of this thread and I have no intention to do so. Some people will never change their views. Some things don't deserve an answer. Simple.

If your intention was to explain why OP is wrong, just please, let me assure you that you succeded the opposite. At least in my case, not that it would count for anything.
My intention was never to show why OP is or isn't wrong.

For the rest, pretty cheap and easy answer, given you refuse to explain I accept such as an apologie.
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And yet, the Swiss government allowed it and the country as a whole benefited from the generated wealth. I didn't find anything about the families being punished or the [I]banks being shut down[/I].
Ah, so this is your solution.

You want to punish the banks retroactively for participating in a system that was, at the time, accepted as completely normal?
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Ah, so this is your solution.

You want to punish the banks retroactively for participating in a system that was, at the time, accepted as completely normal?
so can anybody actually name a country that hasn't been involved in slavery in the 500 years? we could use the country to name our cookies.
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Ah, so this is your solution.

You want to punish the banks retroactively for participating in a system that was, at the time, accepted as completely normal?
Actually no, that isn't what I'd want. My point was that to say "it wasn't Switzerland, just a few banks and families" is quite a poor stance to take given the gravity of the offence committed. We can't pretend that the wealth of a bank has no effect on the wealth of a society and we should all care where that wealth comes from.

And it's not like Swiss banks learnt their lesson during the 2nd world war either.
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