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Are nutritions for muscle growth harmful?

So, I am going to start working out, I just found the perfect GYM. But I need to know one thing. Since I don't have the time to cook all those kinds of food you eat for muscle growth, I thought I would just buy supplements and found some results in https://www.google.ch/search?q=nutri...hrome&ie=UTF-8 but I'm not sure if these are what are known as 'steriods' I don't want to try anything that has a negative effect just to build some muscle on my body.

So, if anyone knows if these are harmful let me know, or if there are any other nutritions that aren't harmful.
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Old 29.09.2017, 12:33
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Re: Are nutritions for muscle growth harmful?

You can get 100% of everything you need to build muscle from a good diet..

Over the counter supplements will do little/no harm used as directed but will also do exactly nothing if your body doesn't need them.

General fitness and toning needs nothing more that a sensible diet.. If your diet has not enough protein, have a protein shake.. But if you just ate half a chicken there's really no point in the shake. Only hard work builds muscle, there's no magic supplement.

Edit : Forget steroids completely .. Mostly illegal unless prescribed by doctor.
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Old 29.09.2017, 12:43
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Re: Are nutritions for muscle growth harmful?

If you don't have time to eat healthily then I'd give up the gym and use the time to cook and eat decent food.

Do fifty push-ups etc whilst your food is cooking.
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Old 29.09.2017, 13:10
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Re: Are nutritions for muscle growth harmful?

Regard cooking like that as a type of Zen and an important part of your workout, chucking`roids and shit like that you are basically cheating as ´roid muscles tend to fall apart rather quickly. You need to read up in the body building forums and remember: "No pain, no gain!"
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Regard cooking like that as a type of Zen and an important part of your workout, chucking`roids and shit like that you are basically cheating as ´roid muscles tend to fall apart rather quickly. You need to read up in the body building forums and remember: "No pain, no gain!"
To be fair, the OP didn't mention that he wanted to take steroids, nor did he say he was "bodybuilding", he was just using steroids as an example of "something harmful" he wants to make sure aren't in his supplements.

To the OP - I know you said you didn't want to cook anything complicated but, to be honest, unless you are planning on body building rather than just adding some muscle and toning up, you can't go far wrong with just increasing your dietary protein by eating a few extra eggs and/or chicken breasts, salmon, etc., per week.
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Old 29.09.2017, 14:01
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So, I am going to start working out, I just found the perfect GYM. But I need to know one thing.
If you're just starting out, start without supplements. Initially results will be very quick, but eventually will plateau as your body adjusts and brings it to homeostasis. Then ask for advice from someone experienced for a bit structured program, then this will also plateau as you get into homeostasis again. THEN look for supplements, to break the plateau. By then you will be experienced enough to know that you should ABSOLUTELY not take steroids, COULD take some amino-acids and SHOULD take some high-quality protein.
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Re: Are nutritions for muscle growth harmful?

I wouldn't overthink it, especially if you're just starting out — just get some whey protein powder and mix it with milk for a post-workout shake. I've noticed a slight difference when I do that vs. when I don't. Just helps you to consume more protein in a day.

Related: Blender Bottles are fantastic for mixing them up quickly and without any lumps: https://www.blenderbottle.com/products/classic
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Re: Are nutritions for muscle growth harmful?

Just eating a 'normal' diet, perhaps with some protein added, is probably fine as a beginner.

If you decide to get a little more serious about being big and strong, you can start counting or estimating "macros" - macronutrients, which is to say protein, fat and carbs. Your targets will depend on your goals and bodyweight, but the it isn't hard to find info, and even being vaguely close to optimal makes a big difference. Exactly how you reach the targets is up to you. Protein shakes are bars can certainly help, but you can also do it with 'normal' food, especially if you consider chicken breast to be normal.

As far as supplements go, nothing, not even steroids, will make you strong without exercise. I'm a big fan of pre-workout coffee and creatine, both of which are about as safe and well studied as supplements get.
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Re: Are nutritions for muscle growth harmful?

here is a good choice

https://www.steroid.com/Muscle-Building-Steroids.php
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Re: Are nutritions for muscle growth harmful?

check your form also. dont go lifting really heavy weights and then screw your back or shoulder up. otherwise its game over and good bye to any fitness for a long time

only add 10% of weight once you can confortably lift a weight 3 sets of 6 reps, ensuring next day you are not feeling any signs of injury (sore back etc...)
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So, I am going to start working out, I just found the perfect GYM. But I need to know one thing. Since I don't have the time to cook all those kinds of food you eat for muscle growth, I thought I would just buy supplements and found some results in https://www.google.ch/search?q=nutri...hrome&ie=UTF-8 but I'm not sure if these are what are known as 'steriods' I don't want to try anything that has a negative effect just to build some muscle on my body.

So, if anyone knows if these are harmful let me know, or if there are any other nutritions that aren't harmful.
Based on your questions, I would recommend that you first read a bit about weight training and nutrition here: https://www.bodybuilding.com/category/nutrition

In summary, supplements such as whey protein or creatine will work if, AND ONLY IF, you have already an almost perfect plan in place: (1) eating at least 6 times per day the right amount of complex carbs and lean proteins; (2) drinking a lot of water; (3) sleeping at least 7 hours (4) and lifting heavy weights. If you can't follow all of the items above you will basically waste the the supplements you take.

Oh, and steroids have nothing to do with supplements! To use steroids you need to be already an advanced body builder and have an accompaniment from an endocrinologist specialized in sport medicine.
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Re: Are nutritions for muscle growth harmful?

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To the OP - I know you said you didn't want to cook anything complicated but, to be honest, unless you are planning on body building rather than just adding some muscle and toning up, you can't go far wrong with just increasing your dietary protein by eating a few extra eggs and/or chicken breasts, salmon, etc., per week.
Not really necessary:



recommended reading for you, OP:

https://www.amazon.com/Bodybuilders-.../dp/0809254573
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So, if anyone knows if these are harmful let me know, or if there are any other nutritions that aren't harmful.

Well, normal food isn't harmful for all we know....
Please OP, for your own good don't take any supplements that were recommended to you by some guys on the internet. You need a real specialist in nutrition to give you some structure, same for a fitness programme. You don't do this "by ear" if you want optimal results (taking an idea from here, another from there and making something that you think it's "customised").
Start by going to a good gym and talking to your trainer for instance. Also, I'm sure that sports medicine clinics have dietitians/nutritionists.
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