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The only box of food I have tried to find & couldn't was to send to my sister who is below the poverty line & should have gone to get food stamps/food bank but was too proud to do so & would rather starve than admit she needed help.
Depending on where your sister is, I´d see if there is a website for online shoppng like Tesco, Asda, Albert Heijn, Rewe, that does delivery services. You order and pay and the delivery address is that of your sister.
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... This would also work for parents to send to students or their offspring in the army depending on where they are based (in Ticino they are well fed ). It would certainly not be a monthly commitment idea but a suprise necessity thing as & when.
This can be done already, with www.leshop.ch and www.coopathome.ch.
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Found the best mystery box I would love to receive:

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Re: business idea / surprise food boxes

I used to subscribe to a similar thing in London - every month I would get a box delivered from my local farm with a set of local produce.
I was asked two questions:
1. "Do you want fruit, veg or fruit & veg?"
2. "5kg or 10kg box?"

That's it.

Worked out cheaper than buying produce as they would deliver whatever was in season and "current", and I was happy that I was supporting a local farm/business.

Would happily subscribe to that again...

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Would happily subscribe to that again...
Here's one, for example, in Zurich.
Found it by googling "Gemüseabo"
http://www.bruederhof.ch/index.php?n=3&s=11
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On the other hand, imagine a mentioned service above with goods from your home country. Would you be interested in recieving a monthly package with food supplies from your country of origin?
Not me. All the stuff that the expat shops sell here are the sort of things I never bought back home anyway.

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We assumed this due to our own experiences abroad, that we did not buy any products which we are not familiar with.
Were you the Swiss ones sitting at the next table to us in Volterra in a restaurant serving the most amazing local food?
You were all eating burger and fries.

Sending packages of Swiss food to Swiss abroad would seem the most likely business model to succeed but you'd better outsource it abroad as postage costs etc from Switzerland are really high and Swiss abroad would probably be paid in the local currency and wouldn't be earning enough.
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Here's one, for example, in Zurich.
Found it by googling "Gemüseabo"
http://www.bruederhof.ch/index.php?n=3&s=11
Thanks - will look into a few when I have time. I think my challenge with the Swiss versions (from what I've seen) is two fold:
- they are all in German (with minimal Italian/French, which is what I speak)
- they somehow are more expensive than buying in Migros... if I cut out the middle man, I would expect the produce to be cheaper. Maybe it's because they mail it, don't know.

I wont compare prices to the UK prices as that's pointless, but comparing to Migros - 3kg of local produce, in season (e.g. potatoes, zucchini and apples - 1kg each), I would expect to pay about 10chf.
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Re: business idea / surprise food boxes

Certainly an interesting idea, but as previous posters pointed out, I think food is a tricky item for subscription boxes. There are just too many different tastes and preferences as well as health requirements, diets and allergies out there.

Also, personally I cannot think of many (relatively) small and light food items that has a long shelf life other than sugary snack foods like the ones you listed, and most people I know including myself will not want to receive regular parcels of sugary snacks that they tend to rather try to avoid most of the time...
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- they somehow are more expensive than buying in Migros... if I cut out the middle man, I would expect the produce to be cheaper. Maybe it's because they mail it, don't know.
Judging from the farms where I buy direct, yes - prices tend to be higher at the farm than at Migros/Coop.

The farmer can't absorb wastage to the extent that Duopoly AG can, and so factors that more heavily into his prices. But I'd say that higher prices at the farm often simply boil down to: The consumer will bear it.

So why do we happily pay more at the farm?

- The 'feel good' factor: By buying from the local farmer rather than from Duopoly AG you believe you are supporting the essence of Swissness.

- Belief that you are doing something more environmentally sound.

- Belief that you are getting a fresher/better product.

- Because going to the farm is more fun than going to Duopoly AG.

With the exception of the last, these assumptions are not necessarily sound. But most of us make irrational decisions now and again.
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Certainly an interesting idea, but as previous posters pointed out, I think food is a tricky item for subscription boxes. There are just too many different tastes and preferences as well as health requirements, diets and allergies out there.

Also, personally I cannot think of many (relatively) small and light food items that has a long shelf life other than sugary snack foods like the ones you listed, and most people I know including myself will not want to receive regular parcels of sugary snacks that they tend to rather try to avoid most of the time...
I agree. For example the surprise box from Coop, I appreciated it very much, but gave away many things e.g. sugary drinks (rivella !), ovomaltine choco, cookies...
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Found the best mystery box I would love to receive:

THAAAT must have cost a pretty packet !!
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Well maybe I should start from the beginning. At first our main idea and targeted customer segment were swiss expats living abroad who have difficulties finding swiss products abroad or suffer from "homesickness" or maybe just want to experience a little bit "Swissness" abroad.

Then we have been brainstorming today and thought maybe this model is also suitable for foreigners living in Switzerland that they recieve the possibilities to try "new food" which they probably would never buy in a shop. And that's why I am here now.

On the other hand, imagine a mentioned service above with goods from your home country. Would you be interested in recieving a monthly package with food supplies from your country of origin?
Don't people already get that? Families send stuff, you know. And it costs way less than to pay a surprise subscription. Lots of us have to travel for various reasons, so we bring things.

Not sure if it is hip enough, this idea of cashing in on nostalgia.

I'd say, also, we get enough surprises when shops often do not restock a product we just barely got used to.

Otherwise - post is so reliable, it is a fab business platform to get creative with. Just not sure about the food part. I really miss gruyere when I am out of CH, gala apples, Denner smoked salmon, and EMI banana bifidus. Now, you can't send it to me without problems, me thinks.

I'd suggest, if I were you, stud, to migroop to organize special weeks for them like Lidl does...offer them you could pick our brains, which specialities for which regions! Your company can do this research for them. (just don't count on folks here not pulling your leg a bit, maybe)
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Well maybe I should start from the beginning. At first our main idea and targeted customer segment were swiss expats living abroad who have difficulties finding swiss products abroad or suffer from "homesickness" or maybe just want to experience a little bit "Swissness" abroad....
Sorry to burst your bubble, but Lidl and Aldi have already cornered that part of the market.

Not sure which one of them it was now, but I still get their emails from the UK as well as Switzerland, and last month, they had an 'Alpine Week' to go along with their Oktoberfest theme. Every food they featured was available in Migros. Friends were asking me if the stuff was any good. The one that my family save freezer space for is Greek Week.

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...On the other hand, imagine a mentioned service above with goods from your home country. Would you be interested in recieving a monthly package with food supplies from your country of origin?
No...no...no.... Part of assimilating to a new country is honing down what you must have, and what you can find in your new environment. That's a big part of the fun of it for me.

When I taught myself about wine many many moons ago, I bought a different one each week and made a note of which were decent and which were only fit for cooking with. When I moved here, I did the same with cheese and chocolate, etc...

I can honestly say now, the only things I'd want in a food parcel from home are a Sunrise Special-vindaloo hot and a Koh-I-Noor Special with garlic rice, raita and Peshwari nan, and Ma Baker's Apricot Yoghurt Flapjacks. That's it! I've bought all of those in bulk in my home town and transported them 240 miles in the past. Just haven't worked out how to fly the curries over to ZRH... yet... I've begged the head chef to get a pop up food stand in Zurich. He'd make enough to retire on in a month, easy!
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We are a group of MBA students and are currently trying to set up a small start-up business. For this reason we would like to know your opinion about the following idea.

The core idea is to offer boxes filled with swiss food on a monthly base. You will receive every month a package filled with swiss candy, chocolate, herbs and other local well-known and not so well-known specialities from Switzerland. The customer does not know what he will get in advance and the surprise factor will have a huge influence on the business model. When it comes to the payment we were thinking about a subscription model for several months.

In addition we thought that with the solution above foreigners in Switzerland are able to get in contact with new products and broaden their culinary horizon. Therefore firstly we are interested in how foreigners think about this idea and if they would appreciate this kind of service? And if you like this idea how much money you are willing to pay every month?

Thanks for your honest feedback
it could be interesting if you would sell it as a gift (incl. wrapping etc). i don't want a surprise box for my own use but to give as a gift could be nice.
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a) I dont see who I'd ever gift a random/surprise gift box to educate them on Swiss foods... ever. Maybe as a one time present, but not a subscription.

b) I know a lot of Swiss expats living abroad as I used to work with banks in Singapore... they generally miss pretty few foods, it typically boils down to Rivella and in extreme cases the sugar free red bull they used as breakfast during Uni... All other stuff was in some relatively comparable ways available even in Asia. To be very frank and honest: Swiss food isn't all that special. Yes, you won't get all the cheese variants, but every major city has some cheese shops that import a dozen or two of the more common variants. My local sweets shop in Singapore even had the "Frey" chocolate you get at Migros...
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This sort of thing exists here already:
https://www.foodist.ch/abo-boxen
https://www.ziano.ch/gourmet-box/
https://www.facebook.com/cadelis.ch/
http://ilgustolino.ch/Spezialitaeten...chiedene-Abos/
https://www.lavanda.ch/delikatessen-shop/gourmet-abo/
etc. etc.

Even this one which offers a rotating selection of specialties from each canton... well, from each of 6 different cantons anyway. Shame if you happen to be interested in the other 20.
https://www.geschenkparadies.ch/a/ha...-6-monate-lang

I've never personally ordered any of them though and I don't think I would. When I moved here as a grad student a big part of the fun was trying new foods to see what I liked. Over the last 10 years I wouldn't say I've eaten everything you find in a typical modest Migros branch... but I bet you I've tried most of it. Remaining large gaps in my knowledge are some of the sweets (I know my way around the chocolate aisle but not the haribo, hard candies or cookies), the sauce/soup/baking mixes, and most anything that comes in a can (fruit, veg, sardines).

But half of the fun was going and choosing what to try myself, either blind or on a personal recommendation from some colleague. I don't think having a box land on my doorstep every month would have been nearly so satisfying (and definitely not if it only contained the big-brand recognizable stuff like Lindor and Basler Leckerli.)
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..... Remaining large gaps in my knowledge are some of the sweets (I know my way around the chocolate aisle but not the haribo, hard candies or cookies), the sauce/soup/baking mixes, and most anything that comes in a can (fruit, veg, sardines)......
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Same here, so that's not being a foreigner avoiding Swiss stuff, it's just avoiding .... yeah, never mind
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Oh, MathNut, thanks for your research. Some of it made me shudder. If anyone ever feels like giving me a gift, I hope they speak to me first, and don't ever go ahead and order me this: https://www.foodist.ch/geschenke.
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Judging from the farms where I buy direct, yes - prices tend to be higher at the farm than at Migros/Coop.

The farmer can't absorb wastage to the extent that Duopoly AG can, and so factors that more heavily into his prices. But I'd say that higher prices at the farm often simply boil down to: The consumer will bear it.

So why do we happily pay more at the farm?

- The 'feel good' factor: By buying from the local farmer rather than from Duopoly AG you believe you are supporting the essence of Swissness.

- Belief that you are doing something more environmentally sound.

- Belief that you are getting a fresher/better product.

- Because going to the farm is more fun than going to Duopoly AG.

With the exception of the last, these assumptions are not necessarily sound. But most of us make irrational decisions now and again.
I might be the only one, but the farm up the street is closer by and less of a climb than the store down the street.
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Re: business idea / surprise food boxes

The idea of getting a box with french croissants on sunday morning... mmm
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