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OP, there are some areas that are accessible only by cable car, Riederalp for example:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riederalp

There are also private mountain huts/chalets in places that are only accessible by foot, (hiking up from the valley below) but have small, private cable cars for getting supplies up there (not for people, you've still got to walk)..

like this:



In Biel-Kinzig, Kanton Uri, the residents in Winter mostly ski from home down to the cable car station. They change their boots, store their skis, and head to work. In the evening, they catch the cable car back up the mountain, and then ski back home from there.
Some farmers bring their own tram to park on top of their favourite mountain. You never know when you might need one.

Very useful for harvesting the cuckoo clocks I have heard.

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The posts above are very informative - it would be great, though, if you could remember in which parts of Switzerland these houses were. This might help us provide more regionally appropriate answers.

The reason I say so is that in addition to rough tracks, cable cars and little tractors, in some parts of Switzerland the farmers fly to their houses.

For example, high upon a rock tower at the back end of the canton of Glarus is perched the tiny settlement of Mischtturm, completely inaccessible by car.



The settlement was originally founded by eagle herders so they could be closer to their feathery flock. At the beginning, the herders would laboriously climb up the cliff face with ropes and ladders, eventually developing a complex pulley system to pull themselves and their provisions to the top. Finally, inspired by the birds in their care, they hit on the idea of flying to their lofty lair.

Over several generations, with plenty of horrific accidents along the way, the eagle herders' wings were improved until they became the sleek, modern wingsuits one sees all over the Alps today:



Ironically, the traditional practice of eagle husbandry has fallen into neglect as eagle numbers in the Alps have plummeted, so nowadays most eagle herders make their living by selling wingsuits to daredevil foreigners.

Perhaps you saw one of these settlements during your tour of Switzerland?
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Old 24.10.2017, 13:02
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Re: Homes with no driveways or roads by them???

There are also houses like this.

I believe the people who live there just never go outside.

What's the point, if you can't get any brown sugar anway?

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Re: Homes with no driveways or roads by them???

Come on guys, let's admit it, we are so loaded financially that we all use private choppers.
It's so convenient compare to cars!!

There's even a subscription if you are too poor to own your own chopper, it's called "Rega", they can pick you up from anywhere, even if you are stuck in the middle of the mountain for example. I saw they picked someone from the motorway the other day, surely they were called because it was a big traffic jam and the client got fed up waiting.

I guess that must be impressive, seeing that from the eyes of a third world country's citizen like USA.
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I saw they picked someone from the motorway the other day, surely they were called because it was a big traffic jam and the client got fed up waiting.
Rega chopper at a road accident is usually because it's a spinal injury or some other life-threatening injury which may be exacerbated by the road trip to the hospital or would take too long. Probably not due to the impatience of the patient.
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I looked for 2 wheel compact utility tractors in a Google image search, but didn't see any.
That's not what I said. I mentioned two-wheel tractors.
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I looked for 2 wheel compact utility tractors in a Google image search, but didn't see any.
Your search skills suck.

https://www.rokon.com/



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Oh, I know the sort of place you mean. The German word for it is a Weiler. They are little mini settlements without a shop or a church. Think the Brits would call them hamlets. I don't think they arose out of a desire for seclusion (although that is certainly a selling point nowadays, to the people who rent or buy the houses as vacation homes) so much as a need to use every last scrap of usable land. So if there's a flat spot anywhere, or even a gently-sloping spot, there will be a farm or maybe a Weiler there.
. . .
(Narrow side streets in villages are often also informally treated as one-way streets by the people who live there. I live on such a street and you can spot an out-of-towner (or rather an out-of-villager) by the fact they don't know ours is "supposed" to be a southbound street . . .
Thank you and for such a helpful explanation!

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That's not what I said.
It's exactly what you said which of course raises the question of why you're trying to deny it now, especially since it's so obvious that you did say it. Over the years I've learned that people in your position can never explain why they're in it, so other people will always have to wonder why you are if they consider your situation at all.

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I think you may be talking about "Alphütten". Yes, in the Alpine regions it is fairly common to take the cattle up to an alpine pasture, by foot. There is a small hut there, and a Senn who makes Cheese with the milk. Sometimes they will have a wire bridge down to the valley below to transport fuel and supplies up, and cheese down. The cheese is excellent. There is a festival when they bring the livestock down to the valley in the fall.

I worked with a guy who had been a Senn. He used his spare time to study for electrical engineering, and the pay covered his costs for the rest of the year when he was a student. This would have been late '70s, all manual milking.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpine_transhumance
Thank you for such a great explanation! I'm still wondering about how the milk is preserved. If it's all made into cheese then I'm guessing it will keep unrefrigerated or in a root cellar or some such thing. But milk would have to be kept cold, so is it all made into cheese, or just the cream and milk is thrown away, or what?

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. . . In Biel-Kinzig, Kanton Uri, the residents in Winter mostly ski from home down to the cable car station. They change their boots, store their skis, and head to work. In the evening, they catch the cable car back up the mountain, and then ski back home from there.
They must really want to live there to go through all that. It also makes me wonder what sort of thing such people do for a living.

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We have some remote houses on our mountain - lived in all year 'round. No easy vehicle access. In the winter, the owners ski down circa 500m to nearest track where their 4WD's are parked, and head to work for the day. When coming home they leave their cars, carry their ski's, and snowshoe back home. One of our chaps also used to keep pigs to supplement his winter food supply. He'd stop by the nearest restaurant daily, collect their scraps, and snowshoe them back home to feed the animals. He's 85 years old now, and decided it's too much work. Finally he's bought a skidoo/snow mobile contraption! But he still walks up and down every day in other seasons.
Wow!!! People who go through a life like that must stay in great shape. Probably not much high blood pressure with all that aerobic exercise. I'm wondering if the women don't get as much of it as the men because they stay home and do household stuff, it's most common for the men to outlive the women?

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She did drive over the land when she moved in She has a parking spot at the road. But honestly I think it is the only house in whole Appenzell which is like that. May be you find it on the Google Aerial Images https://goo.gl/maps/kFyAGWQBPXL2 Really try to find a residential house where no road leads too.

Search for "Einachser"



Just because you see no poles does not mean no electricity or telephone. It is all neatly buried in the ground.
Thank you for mentioning the power poles. I hadn't noticed before that in those type places there don't appear to be any. I'm guessing because heavy snows and winds make it impractical?

In looking around at Google images I found several places that appear to have no roads. At one of them it even says: "Zermatt is a small car-free municipality in Switzerland"

http://c7.alamy.com/comp/BD895H/zerm...and-BD895H.jpg
http://c7.alamy.com/comp/DG40F1/moun...ope-DG40F1.jpg
http://c7.alamy.com/comp/CW7T11/summ...and-CW7T11.jpg
http://c7.alamy.com/comp/BRJ6C2/wink...and-BRJ6C2.jpg
http://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-zer...-58425127.html

https://www.colourbox.com/image/moun...-image-2352887
https://www.colourbox.com/image/smal...-image-2454087
https://www.intrepidtravel.com/adven...nd-photo-blog/

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That's not what I said. I mentioned two-wheel tractors.
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It's exactly what you said which of course raises the question of why you're trying to deny it now, especially since it's so obvious that you did say it. Over the years I've learned that people in your position can never explain why they're in it, so other people will always have to wonder why you are if they consider your situation at all.
Do you have commas where you come from?

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Captain Greybeard is one of the most helpful and well respected members of this forum, so you might want to cut out the attitude. Maybe throw in an apology, too.
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In looking around at Google images I found several places that appear to have no roads. At one of them it even says: "Zermatt is a small car-free municipality in Switzerland"
car-free is not the same as no roads.
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I've never seen a troll apologise.
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I've never seen a troll apologise.
Yup. I've just checked out his list of "no road" photographs.

He's taking the piss.
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Come on guys, let's admit it, we are so loaded financially that we all use private choppers.
A private chopper yesterday.

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Yup, all those photos show roads. Sigh.
Thanks to the others, though, for interesting contributions.

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Aerial view of the situation: https://goo.gl/maps/n8mC8wWtZAT2

https://goo.gl/maps/QwJSW81k2f62
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Wow!!! People who go through a life like that must stay in great shape. Probably not much high blood pressure with all that aerobic exercise. I'm wondering if the women don't get as much of it as the men because they stay home and do household stuff, it's most common for the men to outlive the women?
This did it for me, blatant trolltwattery.
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Didn't you know? Swiss women stay locked in their mountain towers, unable to leave except rarely, at night, to go to the bingo, because of the long running feuds between the matriarchal families, which can last, in some cases, for three centuries or more.



Meanwhile, the men - who are exempt from the blood feud cycle - are obliged to do everything from tilling the fields to herding the eagles to doing the shopping at Landi.

The women, as a result of confinement to their gilded cages, grow fat and lazy, with long matted tresses which flow out of the windows and down to the ground, by which means their husbands and sons can enter the towers. They lie upon their overstuffed couches and cry ever more loudly for sweetmeats and rosewater before expiring, noisily, at the grand old age of 32.

Life in a land without roads is unimaginable. Unimaginable!
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My last six husbands fell into ravines.
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My last six husbands fell into ravines while carrying bathtubs and sofas from the nearest road which is 6 km and 300m away from the tower..
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Thank you for such a great explanation! I'm still wondering about how the milk is preserved. If it's all made into cheese then I'm guessing it will keep unrefrigerated or in a root cellar or some such thing. But milk would have to be kept cold, so is it all made into cheese, or just the cream and milk is thrown away, or what?
Umm, you don't seem to know a great deal about cheesemaking. If you throw the cream and milk away, what do you think is left over to make cheese with?
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