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I'm sorry ZuriRollt, but I didn't clearly get your question

you mean location?
Where do you think that the best place would be to answer your question ?
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Hi Methil,

I know many phDs and postdocs living in Zurich area with their family without any problem. 80K per year ( I think minimum postdoc Salary) would be more than enough to live in CH with your wife.

All people coming for EU or US doing phD or Postdoc saw their quality of life increased in CH vs the original country.

The postdoc salaries here are among the highest in the world. You will also be suprised about the quality of labs and equipments in the universities.

So don't be aftaid
My postdoc friend in Uni Bern said in their department (faculty of medicine) the entry salary for postdoc is 90k. I would imagine ETHZ is even higher?
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My postdoc friend in Uni Bern said in their department (faculty of medicine) the entry salary for postdoc is 90k. I would imagine ETHZ is even higher?
Sorry, correction, 90k is the usual salary of a 2nd year postdoc.
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Old 25.10.2017, 21:52
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For 2 with one income you want to earn minimum 6K CHFs per month Brutto. Any less and you will feel the pain.
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Hi OP,

Not sure where you are taking up your postdoc but if its ETHZ then the first year postdoc salary is sufficient to support yourself and wife.

If it is ETHZ you might want to check out their welcome centre website...its by no means comprehensive but can help. They do provide a breakdown for general expenses here: https://www.ethz.ch/en/the-eth-zuric...of-living.html

Rule of thumb: try to rent something that is no more than a third of your salary.

Zurich can be expensive but with the train network here its easy and fast to get around depending on what you consider is an acceptable commute time.

I'm a postdoc at ETHZ, and on my salary alone I support my husband and two kids. We live in Dübendorf which is a reasonable commute to ETHZ Central of 40 mins...which I'm willing to do because it meant we could get a larger apartment (4 rooms) at an affordable price on one income.

If you have any other questions feel free to PM me. Have plenty of tips and happy to share them!

Good luck!
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Old 25.10.2017, 22:49
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If you have any other questions feel free to PM me. Have plenty of tips and happy to share them!
PMs are fine for personal information but for general Post Doc stuff it would be nice to have it on here where it could help other newcomers too.
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Yeah happy to add them here too if OP asks for any specific.

Perhaps I'll find time to start a new thread on the tips for postdocs sometime soon!

Here's some ideas for OP (but keep in mind that most of this info is what I've found from ETHZ where I work):

- for your spouse one idea for finding work is to consider if your employer offers dual career advice. At ETHZ they offer it (although we never took advantage of this so I have no idea how useful it is): https://www.ethz.ch/en/the-eth-zuric...er-advice.html - they also regularly have career events with industry which could help your spouse build a network which is essential for finding work here.

- language classes (if you need them): we found that ECAP offered good courses (with affordable childcare) that are subsidised by the stadt and are better value for money than what is offered by the Sprachencentrum at ETHZ/Uni Zurich.

- when applying for apartments add a cover letter giving a short story about who you guys are...preferably in German (we also had it in English). Some pictures of a young loving couple might help. Use your Professor as a referee on rental applications and chuck in the institute name a few times (we found this helped)

- ETH Housing really only caters for Professors and International students...or atleast that's what their website would leave you to believe but if you go in there in person they can help you ... we did and they offered us one of their furnished rental apartments for a short contract (~4 months) which was great to have while finding something more long term...it might of helped that I went there fairly desperate with a crying 1 year old baby...but if you don't ask you never get.

- Again this only applies at ETHZ, you can ask for an advance payment of your salary which is helpful when making the move: https://www.ethz.ch/en/the-eth-zuric...y-payment.html - just note that you can only request this a couple of times before they will decline your request

- Most universities have a union, and they might be able to help you. Our union has started putting together welcome packs for new employees coming from abroad...hopefully they contain useful information!

- The first thing to do when you arrive, is register. Once you have this sorted and got your permits, it'll be easier to get rental accommodation. And don't be put off the 'triangle of death' rental contract/employer contract/health insurance thing...the people at the Kreisburo are very understanding on how difficult this is. Get the permits first...then you can sort out most of other stuff

- Perhaps ask your new colleagues for help too. Not all of them will reply but some of them should and may even let you know of apartments that they are vacating (to move for another postdoc!) that you could take over!

Finally, I have a book along the lines of "so you're moving to Switzerland"...covers alot of different things and I no longer need it...as we are moving back to Australia (yep you guessed it my two year postdoc is up!). If you'd like it, let me know as I don't think I'll be needing it...
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we are moving back to Australia (yep you guessed it my two year postdoc is up!). ...
In that case, is your apartment perhaps available for OP to rent?
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In that case, is your apartment perhaps available for OP to rent?
It is for now ... had plenty of interest!
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