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Don't Drink and Drive

The Police from Western Switzerland have just released this clip. It has a shock effect, as is the intention:


http://likemag.com/fr/les-policiers-...es-choc/726908


I am still amazed at how cavalier attitudes are here in Geneva regarding drinking and driving. Some of our Swiss friends don't see what the fuss is all about when we systematically ask at the beginning of the evening: "Who is your named driver?"


We always try to have a series of "interesting" non-alcoholic drinks on offer for the named driver, such as Virgin Mojitos or Margaritas, Raspberry "Champagne"...
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Re: Don't Drink and Drive

Wow. That video was really well done. I don't speak French, but it wasn't necessary


I am always the Designated Driver (because I don't like the taste of alcohol) and take comfort in knowing that my friends can have all the fun they want and I will get them home safely
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I am still amazed at how cavalier attitudes are here in Geneva regarding drinking and driving.
It's not just Geneva.

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The Police from Western Switzerland have just released this clip. It has a shock effect, as is the intention:
Actually, had she driven instead of handing over the keys, she's still be around.

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Old 14.12.2017, 16:46
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Re: Don't Drink and Drive

Had the woman in red insisted on driving herself, she wouldn't have been run over ...
(dang Tom!!!)

I think the previous one is better. The one with the pedestrian who gets run over because he doesn't pay attention as he's texting.
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It's not just Geneva.


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Definitely.. It seems completely normal here to drive after "a few".
Just look at the restaurant/auberge car parks. I've seen it personally many many times.

In the UK drink driving is only a few notches down from interfering with children in terms of stigma. Does it mean that less people do it and/or less accidents/deaths?

I have no idea what the numbers are, anybody?
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Old 14.12.2017, 16:59
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In the UK drink driving is only a few notches down from interfering with children in terms of stigma.
Really?? I have to admit that I only spend my holidays in the UK but did notice a similar attitude to having drinks and driving as some here.
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"Romandie" police? I thought it was an initiative from the the Fribourg police alone, the rest just stole it .
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Some of our Swiss friends don't see what the fuss is all about when we systematically ask at the beginning of the evening: "Who is your named driver?"
If someone asked me that at the beginning of the evening my first reaction would be to walk back out the door.

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Old 14.12.2017, 17:17
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Re: Don't Drink and Drive

I guess there are advantages in not drinking after all
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If someone asked me that at the beginning of the evening my first reaction would to walk back out the door.
Cool. Does it work with threads as well?
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It's not just Geneva.
Quite. There are people all over the place who believe it's perfectly acceptable to have a couple of drinks and drive, that it's quite possible to limit one's alcohol intake over the course of an evening.

What strikes me in that clip is that it was 100% the woman's fault, yet they seem to be implying that the driver was at fault. My message would be 'don't get pissed and expect cars to avoid you when you step out in front of them'.

(OK, perhaps 90%, as the car was maybe a bit too close to the parked cars, although we couldn't really see how narrow the street was. Judging by how little space it took top stop the car he certainly wasn't speeding. )

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Definitely.. It seems completely normal here to drive after "a few".
Just look at the restaurant/auberge car parks. I've seen it personally many many times.

In the UK drink driving is only a few notches down from interfering with children in terms of stigma.
I think it's getting that way, and not just in the UK, but it's more of a generational thing, with more, ahem, 'experienced' drivers quite used to the idea that a couple of pints is OK not likely to change those views.

The key point that seems to get lost in these campaigns is that it's drunk driving that's the problem, not the people who have a glass or two but are still under the limit, i.e. defined by law as being perfectly capable of driving safely.
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What strikes me in that clip is that it was 100% the woman's fault, yet they seem to be implying that the driver was at fault.
How is it not the male driver's fault? Even if someone's standing in the middle of the road where they have no business being he still has to stop. She didn't run into the street, she's standing there and has been for at least a bit.
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Old 14.12.2017, 17:33
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If someone asked me that at the beginning of the evening my first reaction would be to walk back out the door.
FYI, if the driver is caught under the influence and there are passengers in the vehicle with a drivers licence they too suffer legal consequences. It's not just the drivers responsibility but that of the passengers, too. Gives extra ammo dealing with recalcitrant drunk drivers who've "only had a few, it'll be fine". "Nah mate, if I lose my drivers licence because you're a cock, I'm not cool with riding together."
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FYI, if the driver is caught under the influence and there are passengers in the vehicle with a drivers licence they too suffer legal consequences. It's not just the drivers responsibility but that of the passengers, too. Gives extra ammo dealing with recalcitrant drunk drivers who've "only had a few, it'll be fine". "Nah mate, if I lose my drivers licence because you're a cock, I'm not cool with riding together."
Are you sure about that? It's the first time I've come across it.
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How is it not the male driver's fault? Even if someone's standing in the middle of the road where they have no business being he still has to stop. She didn't run into the street, she's standing there and has been for at least a bit.
It's absolutely, 100% the male driver's fault. No court in Switzerland or anywhere else would assign blame anywhere else.

Remember, this is the country where a motorway driver was convicted for hitting a woman who deliberately lay down on the road, in a successful suicide bid.
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FYI, if the driver is caught under the influence and there are passengers in the vehicle with a drivers licence they too suffer legal consequences. It's not just the drivers responsibility but that of the passengers, too. Gives extra ammo dealing with recalcitrant drunk drivers who've "only had a few, it'll be fine". "Nah mate, if I lose my drivers licence because you're a cock, I'm not cool with riding together."
Yeah, but it's one thing getting into a car with someone who is drunk and another if you presume that someone needs help organising their travel arrangements before a drop of alcohol has been consumed.

Although meant with good intentions, I'd find such a question incredibly patronising.
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Are you sure about that? It's the first time I've come across it.
No, not sure, but IIRC it's the case. It's recommended drunk passengers are asked to sit in the back seat. Dunno how that would go down. Either way, screw drunk drivers.
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If someone asked me that at the beginning of the evening my first reaction would be to walk back out the door.


It's alright Loz, you would not make it past the front door.
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Yeah, but it's one thing getting into a car with someone who is drunk and another if you presume that someone needs help organising their travel arrangements before a drop of alcohol has been consumed.

Although meant with good intentions, I'd find such a question incredibly patronising.


Meant with absolutely brilliantly good intentions. If you'd lost someone close victim of a (drunken) hit and run, you would find nothing patronising about being asked.
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