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What is the minimum your employer is allowed to pay you?

My just announced that he will be slashing our salary from 5K to 2.5K and we 'could' work 50% if we wanted.

So, it seems like logical thing to be expected to work only half.

My question is, could I refuse to work and get temporary social benefits until I find a better job? I was in the social service program and they are the ones they helped me find this job, so I was thinking about quitting while saying 2.5 isn't enough for me to live on, but I am not sure how much is considered too little before I have a legit claim to quit
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Old 06.02.2018, 19:17
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Re: What is the minimum your employer is allowed to pay you?

How long have you been employed?

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Old 06.02.2018, 19:50
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My question is, could I refuse to work and get temporary social benefits until I find a better job?
Sure, but you will not get RAV/unemployment payments ASAP (which are NOT social benefit) but a lot of Einstelltage as you will be unemployed on your own wish.

Better might be to work the 50% and claim RAV for the remainder.
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Sure, but you will not get RAV/unemployment payments ASAP (which are NOT social benefit) but a lot of Einstelltage as you will be unemployed on your own wish.

Better might be to work the 50% and claim RAV for the remainder.
The RAV will pay 70% (80% with kids) of the difference, so you can work 50%, get paid, and earn another 35% (so a total of 85%) as long as you are actively job seeking and entitled. But I think it has to be a new contract not just a mutation, as it has to be clear that your employer is cutting your %age not that you are asking for it.
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Sure, but you will not get RAV/unemployment payments ASAP (which are NOT social benefit) but a lot of Einstelltage as you will be unemployed on your own wish.
You really should not give advice as wrong as this... it wasn't his wish - the employer single handedly decided to reduce the job to a 50% role. Technically can he not do so without consent, but in reality would this mean the OP can work his notice period full time and then be out of work. I'd talk the RAV right away before agreeing anything with the employer - I assume they would want him to work 50% and start writing applications directly. They might also have a word with the employer as this is not how stuff works in CH.
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Old 06.02.2018, 21:21
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Re: What is the minimum your employer is allowed to pay you?

RAV doesn't pay anyone anything, it's the ALK who does.

In any case, if he hasn't worked at least 12 months in the past two years (and I suspect that he hasn't), then nothing.

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Re: What is the minimum your employer is allowed to pay you?

Sorry for the update (if some people find it annoying) but I have just 2 questions about RAV.

If I work at full salary say for 8 months and works at 50% for 4 months more, which would equal to 12 months. Do I still claim RAV? i.e. 70% of the total combined of the two terms.

My second question is, if I stop after 8 months get social benefit for 1-2 months and then I start working say 4 months ... do I still get RAV?

Someone said, you have to work for 1 full year without interuptions to get RAV and I am not sure.


btw: people here call it RAV, so that's why I am saying it ... but in the French cantons it's called "indemnité de chomage" if I am not mistaken.


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My second question is, if I stop after 8 months get social benefit for 1-2 months and then I start working say 4 months ... do I still get RAV?
If YOU stop working you may get 30 to 60 Einstelltage (Days which are count as on RAV but you will not be paid) . Rightfully so.
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If YOU stop working you may get 30 to 60 Einstelltage (Days which are count as on RAV but you will not be paid) . Rightfully so.
Not sure if this changes anything, but since employer decide to cut the salary&working time to 50% I could use that as a reason to quit, since my income would be too low to survive. it's not like I am quitting on my own.

But your answer is not clear (sorry) how does getting 30-60 days of this 'Einstelltage' help me in anyway?
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Re: What is the minimum your employer is allowed to pay you?

You should ask your RAV advisor.
But most likely they will tell you you should continue to work at 50% and look for a full time job at the same time. They will probably give you some benefits considering you're working only 50% but willing to work 100%.
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Re: What is the minimum your employer is allowed to pay you?

They should pay you 70% of the 50%, assuming that you gave worked at least 12 months in the past two years.

Einstelltage don't help you, they are punishment, i.e. days that you don't get paid.

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Re: What is the minimum your employer is allowed to pay you?

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My just announced that he will be slashing our salary from 5K to 2.5K and we 'could' work 50% if we wanted.

So, it seems like logical thing to be expected to work only half.

My question is, could I refuse to work and get temporary social benefits until I find a better job? I was in the social service program and they are the ones they helped me find this job, so I was thinking about quitting while saying 2.5 isn't enough for me to live on, but I am not sure how much is considered too little before I have a legit claim to quit
RAV will most likely prefer you to work the part time, topping up your salary but it depends on your individual agent. In the end, if they see you working it will be less painful for you in the long run.
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