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We have none of that nonsense here in Neuchâtel so I guess that makes us a non Fasnacht canton.

I am very happy not to have any of it here.
You have, just a bit later (End of March, even April ) and at fewer places:
https://www.loisirs.ch/actualites/21...z-le-programme
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Old 12.02.2018, 12:47
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Re: Swiss Tradition...but why?

5am? Pfft. That's an extra two hours sleep compared to Basel.
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Re: Swiss Tradition...but why?

Just book a holiday during Fastnacht season, that’s what I do to get away from it all.
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Old 12.02.2018, 13:08
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You have, just a bit later (End of March, even April ) and at fewer places:
https://www.loisirs.ch/actualites/21...z-le-programme
Two little things up in t'mountains neither of which involve ridiculously early wake up calls.

I'll stick to my opinion that we are a non-fasnacht canton.
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Just book a holiday during Fastnacht season, that’s what I do to get away from it all.
I think I might do that next year....I've lived here a couple of years but I was away at this time last year so missed it!
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We're going to the Luzerner Fasnacht parade this afternoon. My kids have been talking about it for weeks. They love it!

We had the village one last week for the children which they took part in.

It's great to see the young people around here put so much effort into these traditions.
Growing up in Luzern as a kid I participated with a Guggemusik band. Months before the event we would work on our mask and costume. Fritschi was our headquarters.
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Old 12.02.2018, 15:30
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Re: Swiss Tradition...but why?

Damn those ancient customs and traditions for being so bloody inconsiderate. How dare they!

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You should all move to my village. Not a hint of anything to do with Fasnacht or Carnevale.
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Re: Swiss Tradition...but why?

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Does anyone know why as part of Faschtnacht it is necessary to have the Morgenwacken (morning wake) parade at 5am!!

I live in Lachen and was very confused (and pretty furious at the time) to be woken up at 5am by about 30 people parading around the apartments with whistles, drums and fireworks!

I know were meant to embrace the Swiss traditions but I would just like to understand the reasoning behind this! The next event on the programme did not start until 9:30am!

I did receive a copy of the programme and I'll be honest I did not look at the timings of things....but mainly as I was not expecting anything to happen so close to my apartment at 5am!

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Old 12.02.2018, 19:56
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We have none of that nonsense here in Neuchâtel so I guess that makes us a non Fasnacht canton.

I am very happy not to have any of it here.
... although a lot of the stuff that goes on at the Fête des Vendanges is very similar to the Luzerner Fasnacht.

I'm not a Fasnacht fan, but I am impressed every year by the percentage of Luzern's population that actively participates. There were more people in disguise than not in the town centre this evening, and today is not even one of the event's two "big" days.
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Old 12.02.2018, 19:58
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Ah so it's to make people get up and go to Church! haha another reason to dislike religion I'd understand it more then if it were a Sunday (not that I'd like that any better...but at least I might've been able to get some more sleep!)
Believe me, at Fastnacht even the catholics do not go to church , it's actually their missbehavingtime.

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...... In Basel at least, it's the Morgestraich, Straich = Streich = prank, and it starts in the morning because back in the days, those pulling the prank (turning off all lights) could "vanish into the night". Or something like that, at least that's what I read at some point.

Also, Fasnacht = fast Nacht = almost night, both in terms of timing and in terms of no lights.

(I hate Fasnacht).
ROFLMAO, no!
Morgenstraich is closer to "Zapfenstraich", the military sound to start moving .... which those folks with the lanterns do at exactly 4 a.m. The lights are off to make sure, those (beautiful, btw) lanterns actually have full effect.

Fastnacht comes from "fasten" (fasting = not eating). Fastnacht is the time before the fasting time.

PS: Fastnacht is a bit like Billag: Not everybody needs it but we let them have it.
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Re: Swiss Tradition...but why?

Loved it as a child. We went to school in full Fasnachts-garb and danced and played pranks. I remember being a princess, using my moms bridal dress, very smart. When my dad saw me, he asked why I wanted to go to Fasnacht in a nightgown... :-)
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It's not "necessary" to have it, it's just what it is. In Basel at least, it's the Morgestraich, Straich = Streich = prank, and it starts in the morning because back in the days, those pulling the prank (turning off all lights) could "vanish into the night". Or something like that, at least that's what I read at some point.
The prank is not switching off the lights... the tradition predates street lighting by centuries. The prank bit is the drumming - which was illegal at night. And the particular military signal they drum: "assemble the troops". Might have caught some people off guard the first time they did it... 250 years later not so much...
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Also, Fasnacht = fast Nacht = almost night, both in terms of timing and in terms of no lights.
lovely explanation, but wrong. Fast Nacht= the night before fasting.
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Reminds me of the time I went for an early morning walk and was stopped by the police.

- And might I ask what you're doing out and about at this hour, sir?

- I'm taking a stroll down to the pond to watch the sunrise, officer.

- Bit early for a stroll, isn't it, sir?

- Well, that's when sunrise... er, I mean, well yes, I suppose it is quite early, officer...

Back when Dougal's Breakfast used to live next to Hampstead Heath.
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Old 13.02.2018, 09:11
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... although a lot of the stuff that goes on at the Fête des Vendanges is very similar to the Luzerner Fasnacht.
I suppose it is just at a different time of year and minus the early morning wake up calls.
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Does anyone know why as part of Faschtnacht it is necessary to have the Morgenwacken (morning wake) parade at 5am!!
Yes
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Not really a Swiss tradition, just a Fasnacht tradition.

It's not "necessary" to have it, it's just what it is. In Basel at least, it's the Morgestraich, Straich = Streich = prank, and it starts in the morning because back in the days, those pulling the prank (turning off all lights) could "vanish into the night". Or something like that, at least that's what I read at some point.

Also, Fasnacht = fast Nacht = almost night, both in terms of timing and in terms of no lights.

(I hate Fasnacht).
Nope, it means night before fasting (fasten und nacht) and describes the day before the fasting begins. morgestreich i only heard of in CH.
dislike fasancht, too.
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The prank is not switching off the lights... the tradition predates street lighting by centuries. The prank bit is the drumming - which was illegal at night. And the particular military signal they drum: "assemble the troops". Might have caught some people off guard the first time they did it... 250 years later not so much...

lovely explanation, but wrong. Fast Nacht= the night before fasting.
sorry, didnt see that n jumped straight to answer it... correct.
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Old 13.02.2018, 16:10
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Re: Swiss Tradition...but why?

Fasnacht seems to be a very binary thing in Switzerland: most people I know seem to absolutely love it or absolutely hate it.

Is this purely a matter of personal taste or is there a social element to it? Is it about social class/ peasants vs townies/ sonderbundskrieg?

Or not?
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Old 13.02.2018, 16:18
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Fasnacht seems to be a very binary thing in Switzerland: most people I know seem to absolutely love it or absolutely hate it.

Is this purely a matter of personal taste or is there a social element to it? Is it about social class/ peasants vs townies/ sonderbundskrieg?

Or not?
I think there's a bit of everrything.

Zwingli banned Fasnacht in Zürich, and although it has been revived, they just copied stuff from other cities and it shows. It's play acting and not genuine.

Basel also went the protestant way in the Reformation, but somehow managed to recover a lively Fasnacht tradition. No idea how or why.

I think there is also a social class thing. The more educated and snobbish the person, the less likely they are to admit to liking Fasnacht (but many will go anyway ... so they don't always walk the talk)

And country folks like it more than townies.

That's my observation at least.
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