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Parking spot barrier/lock

Hello ladies and gentlemen, hope this message finds you well.
Does anyone have experience with installing a parking barrier (such as this) on a parking spot you own?
If yes, did you have to obtain special permission or such from the city administration? (because you are basically 'modifying your property').
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Re: Parking spot barrier/lock

Yes. You will need building permisson from your Local administration
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Old 18.02.2018, 17:17
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Re: Parking spot barrier/lock

Hornbach has them.

https://www.hornbach.ch/shop/Parkbue...A0%7D%7D%5D%7D

https://www.hornbach.ch/shop/Parkbue...A0%7D%7D%5D%7D

https://www.hornbach.ch/shop/Parkbue...A0%7D%7D%5D%7D
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Old 18.02.2018, 17:41
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Yes. You will need building permisson from your Local administration
You almost certainly don't - permission is only required for items over a certain size, or things which are living accommodation.

This looks like it's the size of a couple of plant pots, so unless there's some concern over restricting access (i.e. the drive is long enough for a fire engine hose to not reach - but in that case you'd be installing an electric gate and your groundkeeper would be worrying about this...) they're unlikely to care.

I certainly wouldn't bother asking.
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You almost certainly don't - permission is only required for items over a certain size, or things which are living accommodation.

This looks like it's the size of a couple of plant pots, so unless there's some concern over restricting access (i.e. the drive is long enough for a fire engine hose to not reach - but in that case you'd be installing an electric gate and your groundkeeper would be worrying about this...) they're unlikely to care.

I certainly wouldn't bother asking.
If you live in anything other than a stand alone house with a private driveway, you will need to ask.

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Re: Parking spot barrier/lock

Something to clarify:

If there is any communal aspect to the property it is not uncommon that the what you own is actually a share in the common property, not the parking space itself.

For instance, our Quartier has a common underground garage. When I bought our house the sale included the two parking spaces in that garage assigned to it. The spaces are numbered and registered to me in the Grundbuch. BUT because of the way the Quartier was established, what I actually own is 2/20 of the common garage. Which is not quite the same thing as owning the parking space.

In practice, those spaces are mine. Legally, though, decisions about the garage must be made with the other owners, which could include decisions to install a barrier.

If your desire to put up a parking barrier is driven by a neighborhood dispute... just a heads-up to get all your ducks in a row before going further.
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Old 18.02.2018, 18:05
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If there is any communal aspect to the property it is not uncommon that the what you own is actually a share in the common property, not the parking space itself.
In our case, it is the parking space itself, which has it's own registered location number, but it is outside.

However, as it is in a parking lot that is communally owned, I would expect that permission would be required.

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If you live in anything other than a stand alone house with a private driveway, you will need to ask.

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Fair point, I read it more as a driveway.

But would you actually? If you own the parking place as the OP stated, what rule would prevent you as long as it is not obtrusive or unsafe?
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Re: Parking spot barrier/lock

@newtoswitz exactly, is there a law somewhere that states you can't put 4 screws in the ground? Let's abstract the body of the barrier, as I can put a car there and it's ok...but if I screw the car/barrier to the ground, than that raises a question mark.
PS. parking space in apartment building
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PS. parking space in apartment building
Do you own that part or rent it? And how is it declared, your ownership, shared ownership?
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If you own the parking place as the OP stated, what rule would prevent you as long as it is not obtrusive or unsafe?
House rules.

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Do you own that part or rent it? And how is it declared, your ownership, shared ownership?
Own, my ownership.
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Old 18.02.2018, 21:33
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Own, my ownership.
And as Tom said: do the house rules allow changes? You may own the parking space, that does not automatically include applying changes to that
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And as Tom said: do the house rules allow changes? You may own the parking space, that does not automatically include applying changes to that
Ok, I'll bite:
- The thing costs 200 CHF to buy and even I would manage to install it...
- The property is owned, not rented.

Yes, there might be some house rules like "don't put a satellite dish on the outside of the building to not ruin our carefully crafted Swiss concrete box design", but I cannot see anyone contesting the installation of this thing on a privately owned parking spot. The OP clearly needs it as some people don't follow the house rules. So in the worst case is it a 200 CHF piece that starts a discussion about the actual problem. I'd just go ahead with it.
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Re: Parking spot barrier/lock

Probably not. To be sure you probably want to call your Bauinspektorat (in many cases called Bauamt) and ask.
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Re: Parking spot barrier/lock

What is the actual problem? Presumably somebody(ies) parking in your spot?

If it's inside a garage, it shouldn't be hard to get the numberplate of the culprit and report it to the building administration.

Or did you already do this?

If they then can't find who the car owner is, either they write to everyone or put up a sign, or they have a security problem with non-residents they need to solve.

Is there a sign up making it clear that you own it? At least then they can't pretend they didn't know.

You could also try a traffic cone with "Private for (number plate)" written on it, it takes another level of gaul to actually move a cone before parking illegally.
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