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Work in Zurich, live in Ski-village?

Anyone know someone who does this?

I'm a skier who currently lives in Zurich centre. But Mon to Thurs I simply work, workout and sleep. But on the weekend I want to party. But I often find myself not wanting to spend the 5 hours round trip to a good resort for a day of skiing on the weekend.

So I'm thinking rent/buy a small place at a high end resort. St.Moritz/Zermatt/Verbier.

Keep a small pied-a-tier or room in Zurich. Train in Monday morning, leave Friday at 4pm back to my ski-town.

Seems very glamorous, and I can afford it. But maybe it gets tired soon? Thoughts?

fj
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Re: Work in Zurich, live in Ski-village?

i remember that many moons ago somebody asked for people willing to share (cost of) a chalet in Verbier. use the search function to see if its still up? i think its doable, a flat in St.Moritz that friends of mine had for 6 months came down to 3500 chf/month. dunno if its better to look for airbnb apartments to book weekend-wise or go with some agency to book you in and out for weekends.
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Re: Work in Zurich, live in Ski-village?

Hi FJ

I live in resort all the time near Verbier having been a city dweller. I know a lot of people that own or rent and work in the cities around Switzerland. If you become part of the resort as you are suggesting then the ambiance of the resort, people living there etc are far more important than the skiing or ski terrain.

After 13 years it never gets boring because we have such a diverse range of people coming in and out of resort particularly during the winter. Its the network of people that make it so.

I live in a resort that has 6K permanent residence with massive ifrastructure. It is not just a tourist resort. The smaller the resort the easier it is to make good friends.

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Re: Work in Zurich, live in Ski-village?

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Anyone know someone who does this?

I'm a skier who currently lives in Zurich centre. But Mon to Thurs I simply work, workout and sleep. But on the weekend I want to party. But I often find myself not wanting to spend the 5 hours round trip to a good resort for a day of skiing on the weekend.

So I'm thinking rent/buy a small place at a high end resort. St.Moritz/Zermatt/Verbier.

Keep a small pied-a-tier or room in Zurich. Train in Monday morning, leave Friday at 4pm back to my ski-town.

Seems very glamorous, and I can afford it. But maybe it gets tired soon? Thoughts?

fj
follow your heart and JUST DO IT! Just be aware of the tax implications i.e. where you pay tax as it could be costly in a resort.
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Old 27.02.2018, 09:28
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Re: Work in Zurich, live in Ski-village?

Fijiman,

Are you looking to rent, or purchase?

If purchase, would this be a second residence?

If you would be renting one or both places, no problem.

If purchase, I see from one of your previous posts that you are Canadian. Do you also have an EU citizenship?

I ask because we, also non-EU, have toyed with trying to do something similar. We've thought of purchasing a second home that would be used for weekends now, perhaps later becoming a primary residence after OH retires.

However, the rules around owning a second home have proved problematic for us. As non-EU we need permission to purchase a second residence, our C permits are no help here. While eventually we might be approved, we have found the wheels of the Permission Gods turn exceedingly slow. So far we have lost out on the properties we were interested due to the time it takes to clear the permit hurdle, as the competition can move faster than we can.

Much depends on the type of property you are interested in.

So a lot of 'ifs', but something to research. As said, renting shouldn't be an issue, nor purchase if you don't already own a property, and if you are EU you're golden.

By the way, have you thought about Austria? I much prefer Austria to Switzerland, would buy there in a shot if I could get my mutt across the border. I feel like the relaxed feel of the Austrian ski villages I've been to, I've felt more welcome there than in the Swiss resorts.

But then, I'm guessing I'm a lot older and more staid than you are, we are probably looking for different things.

But as to your question on commuting - of course it's do-able. Judging by the outbound traffic, a good portion of Zürich already does.

Good luck!
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follow your heart and JUST DO IT! Just be aware of the tax implications i.e. where you pay tax as it could be costly in a resort.
He will be working 4 days a week in ZH, so he will be a tax resident there, not in the ski resort.

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i remember that many moons ago somebody asked for people willing to share (cost of) a chalet in Verbier. use the search function to see if its still up? i think its doable, a flat in St.Moritz that friends of mine had for 6 months came down to 3500 chf/month. dunno if its better to look for airbnb apartments to book weekend-wise or go with some agency to book you in and out for weekends.
I think airbnb on midterm basis will do fine. If you rent >30 days most tenants give a 50% discount, which makes feasible renting a very fancy place for under 2-2.5k/month. I just rented a shiny 2.5 flat in the middle of Davos for 1.7k.

If I was you, I would change from one place to another every season, otherwise you quickly get bored by the same pubs/sceneries.


P.S. Cool thread, thanks for posting!

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Re: Work in Zurich, live in Ski-village?

I don’t get it!

Why not remain as now and take that Friday train and stay overnight in a cheap hostelry in a ski resort for Saturday night coming back Sunday evening.

That’s got to be cheaper than renting/buying in a resort. Also you are not tied to one place...
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I don’t get it!

Why not remain as now and take that Friday train and stay overnight in a cheap hostelry in a ski resort for Saturday night coming back Sunday evening.

That’s got to be cheaper than renting/buying in a resort. Also you are not tied to one place...
I think it is more about getting settled in a place like this, rather than being a typical weekend tourist. I think it is worth it, especially in the high season, when there is a lot of entertainment around and when you can connect to fancy rich people wasting their fortunes in swiss resorts... I the low season, however, you will be dying from boredom. Therefore, I would rent 3 months or so in the high season, each time in a new place.

Also, because of the said 50% discount on airbnb, renting 1 full month will be almost the same in price as renting 4x long weekend. And you don't need to move all your ski equipment every time.
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Re: Work in Zurich, live in Ski-village?

Yep, I know someone who does this. They go to Klosters by train every Thursday night after work and they work from there on the Friday. They go back Monday morning on the 5:30 am train. It's about 2 hours journey with just one change and it's really not even that expensive with a halbtax (25 Fr?), I guess that you could even upgrade to 1st if it gets busy. It's a great solution to be able to work on the train and not drive through the traffic. Could be easier than the destinations you were thinking about.

actually just reread your OP, you want to party, then what about Davos? Klosters would be too boring.

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Re: Work in Zurich, live in Ski-village?

we have bought an apartment in Graubünden in the middle of a ski area 1.5 years ago and we love it. we also go from Friday evening until Sunday evening almost every weekend and holiday in the winter, and many times during the rest of the year.

indeed, you can't compare it to a hotel as you are going home and can leave your stuff there.

my recommendation would be to go for a place max 1.5 hour away from Zürich (with no car train etc) so that you can easily reach it - otherwise you will not go that often.
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Re: Work in Zurich, live in Ski-village?

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Anyone know someone who does this?

I'm a skier who currently lives in Zurich centre. But Mon to Thurs I simply work, workout and sleep. But on the weekend I want to party. But I often find myself not wanting to spend the 5 hours round trip to a good resort for a day of skiing on the weekend.

So I'm thinking rent/buy a small place at a high end resort. St.Moritz/Zermatt/Verbier.

Keep a small pied-a-tier or room in Zurich. Train in Monday morning, leave Friday at 4pm back to my ski-town.

Seems very glamorous, and I can afford it. But maybe it gets tired soon? Thoughts?

fj
St Moritz & Zermatt is a pig to get to especially in bad weather Trains take hours, not sure if you can even make Zermatt by train that day leaving work at 16.00.. Verbier is possible but new builds were 27,000 CHF m2 last time I looked.

Chamonix might be a better option, it was mine for over 20 years & can always be reached by road via Geneva even if it's snowed hard. The Col to Martigny is open 75% of the time, however there was a landslide earlier this season so the road is currently closed. Train works however many transfer company's do shared mini busses even the last Easy Bus from GVA airport leaves at 23.59.

I have of course forgotten St Anton which is a direct train from ZHB.
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Re: Work in Zurich, live in Ski-village?

Laax isn't hard to get to from Zurich - direct train to Chur then a bus; it must be the biggest proper sized place.

Lenzerheide (+Arosa) is bigger but the public transport isn't so straightforward; still much closed than anything in the French part or St Moritz.
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Re: Work in Zurich, live in Ski-village?

As lovely as Zermatt is, it's too far and painful to get to, on a regular basis anyway. I would look for something in the Graubünden area or maybe Berner Oberland, not more than 2 hours from Zurich.

If you indeed go every weekend, or at least 3 out of 4 every month, and tend to go to always the same place or at least prefer it that way, it will pay off to rent rather than go to a hotel every time (or even to buy and AirBnB during the week)
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Re: Work in Zurich, live in Ski-village?

My neighbour has owned a place in Wengen for years and spends most of his spare time there.
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Re: Work in Zurich, live in Ski-village?

we live at a ski resort and commute everyday, if you've ever done a commute in the uk then its a walk in the park here
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Laax isn't hard to get to from Zurich - direct train to Chur then a bus; it must be the biggest proper sized place.

Lenzerheide (+Arosa) is bigger but the public transport isn't so straightforward; still much closed than anything in the French part or St Moritz.
How about Chur itself then? Rent next to the station, ready to take off to anywhere in GR, UR, SG and just 1.20 to Zurich. Can even commute every day, no need for a place in ZH.
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Re: Work in Zurich, live in Ski-village?

Dear All,

Thank you for the great feedback and insight! Its great to know that hear that the experiences of others have been so positive. I'm going to start to seriously consider location and options (buy vs rent, second home vs first, etc)

kind regards
fj

ps. Hi Meloncollie, I have dual Canadian/UK citizenship.
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Re: Work in Zurich, live in Ski-village?

Hmmm, got me thinking. That direct train route to Klosters is looking attractive.
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How about Chur itself then? Rent next to the station, ready to take off to anywhere in GR, UR, SG and just 1.20 to Zurich. Can even commute every day, no need for a place in ZH.
then better go for Landquart. it is one stop closer to Zurich and has a direct train to Davos/Klosters.
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then better go for Landquart. it is one stop closer to Zurich and has a direct train to Davos/Klosters.
There is no social life in Landquart, Chur is way better. Although, to each his own...
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