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Looking for advice on a second hand car.

Hi guys,

On the verge of turning 40, I decided to buy myself car It should be a second hand one (around 10K CHF), safe, with lots of room, and low running costs.

The other day I saw a Skoda Octavia (top of my list) 1.4 petrol, with 60K km, built in 2012, with no fancy extras, sold by a garage asking 10K CHF.

There are some scratches on the bumpers and some rust on the brakes, but otherwise it looks in a good state, at least for me. But I am someone who knows very little about cars, so I thought I would ask here for help.

Here are some pictures of the rusty brakes and the engine, with a particular of a rusty screw. I was surprised to find the engine and the connections in good state, but the screws so rusty... There was no rust otherwise on the suspensions, under the body, or on the exhaust.

Something that bothers me the most is that the car was serviced only once, after 30Km and 2 years, and then nothing for the last 4 years, during which it was driven only another 30K Km. I wonder if all this time without service (probably not even a change of oil) might have damaged the car/engine?
The garage has not yet done a new service and they said they would do it only if I decide to buy the car to make sure the MFK is passed, reason being that they are very busy. This also bothers me a bit.

Now, from the information I gave you and the pictures below, would someone be able and kind enough to post his/her opinion on this deal? Should I pass on this one? Or perhaps it would be a decent buy after I bargain down the price to X?

Cars like this one come up all the time and I have given myself a couple of months to find one, so I can afford to miss this particular one, no rush.

Thanks for any help!

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Near the battery? Looks like corrosion from battery gases. Get battery checked.
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Re: Looking for advice on a second hand car.

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Hi guys,

On the verge of turning 40, I decided to buy myself car It should be a second hand one (around 10K CHF), safe, with lots of room, and low running costs.

The other day I saw a Skoda Octavia (top of my list) 1.4 petrol, with 60K km, built in 2012, with no fancy extras, sold by a garage asking 10K CHF.

There are some scratches on the bumpers and some rust on the brakes, but otherwise it looks in a good state, at least for me. But I am someone who knows very little about cars, so I thought I would ask here for help.

Here are some pictures of the rusty brakes and the engine, with a particular of a rusty screw. I was surprised to find the engine and the connections in good state, but the screws so rusty... There was no rust otherwise on the suspensions, under the body, or on the exhaust.

Something that bothers me the most is that the car was serviced only once, after 30Km and 2 years, and then nothing for the last 4 years, during which it was driven only another 30K Km. I wonder if all this time without service (probably not even a change of oil) might have damaged the car/engine?
The garage has not yet done a new service and they said they would do it only if I decide to buy the car to make sure the MFK is passed, reason being that they are very busy. This also bothers me a bit.

Now, from the information I gave you and the pictures below, would someone be able and kind enough to post his/her opinion on this deal? Should I pass on this one? Or perhaps it would be a decent buy after I bargain down the price to X?

Cars like this one come up all the time and I have given myself a couple of months to find one, so I can afford to miss this particular one, no rush.

Thanks for any help!

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Re: Looking for advice on a second hand car.

Choice of car OK but the lack of maintenance is a huge warning. Oil and filter change is by far the number one "must do" for petrol engines, should be changed at least annually even if driven very little. Strongly suggest keep looking. Cosmetic appearance catches the eye, but the unseen things in drivetrain and electrical systems hurts the wallet. Good luck!
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Re: Looking for advice on a second hand car.

Also maybe look up an old thread
"what should I know before buying a used car"
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Oil and filter change is by far the number one "must do" for petrol engines, should be changed at least annually even if driven very little.
nonsense. just follow the service manual or service indicator.
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Re: Looking for advice on a second hand car.

Based on the 3 pics it looks like the car has been little used, and mostly ignored. That is what an engine looks like after it's been ignored for a decade, then given a resale power wash.

I wouldn't be particularly concerned about one single rusted fastener.

There is a difference between "little used, but at regular intervals", and "used a bit, then left to rot".

10K seems a bit high, but I'm a cheapskate.

The 4 years/30K no service window would bother me - more because of the hydraulics than the engine oil.
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nonsense. just follow the service manual or service indicator.
Skoda seems to recommend service every 30k Km or 2 years.

Thanks guys, I think I’ll pass on this one
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Re: Looking for advice on a second hand car.

I wouldn't buy a base model, get one with extras you/people want.
Sounds like you'll be a 'buy and hold' person, so get a car you'll be happy to keep for the foreseeable future, so don't compromise with bluetooth, aircon, steering wheel controls etc.
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If you're already worried about it, then move on.
Things is, I’ll always be a bit worried
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I wouldn't buy a base model, get one with extras you/people want.
Sounds like you'll be a 'buy and hold' person, so get a car you'll be happy to keep for the foreseeable future, so don't compromise with bluetooth, aircon, steering wheel controls etc.
I would love to have automatic gearshift, but then I am concerned it would cost more to service/repair. Does that make sense?
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Re: Looking for advice on a second hand car.

My golden rule for buying used cars in CH : Buy only if seller agrees to get the MFK cleared before sale.

Takes care of most worries.
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I would love to have automatic gearshift, but then I am concerned it would cost more to service/repair. Does that make sense?
I bought a 2003 Mitsubishi Galant in 2014 with 160,000 Kms from a dealer with MFK. Still going strong at 175,000km, regular routine maintenance. Nothing more.
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I would love to have automatic gearshift, but then I am concerned it would cost more to service/repair. Does that make sense?
You can check this on the car forums and owners clubs, to see what gearboxes are troublesome.
For the most part, they are reliable, if they weren't there wouldn't be so many about.
My question would more likely be, does a 1.4 petrol Octavia suit an auto or the 1.8 is the more driveable/comfortable combination?
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You can check this on the car forums and owners clubs, to see what gearboxes are troublesome.
For the most part, they are reliable, if they weren't there wouldn't be so many about.
My question would more likely be, does a 1.4 petrol Octavia suit an auto or the 1.8 is the more driveable/comfortable combination?
Thanks for the tip about the car forums.

The 1.4 felt responsive and enough for my needs. Because I care about petrol consumption, the 1.8 sounds a bit too thirsty.
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Re: Looking for advice on a second hand car.

Two things you most likely will not find out, was the car hammered around at high revs or lugged around at under powered revs, both of which are hard on the mechanics. An automatic transmission, if it is a good one, will mediate some of that.

More important is how are you going to drive it?
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Re: Looking for advice on a second hand car.

I'm no car expert, but when we bought a second hand car, I made sure to get the extended warranty through Quality1 (two years from date of purchase). I was really glad that I did, because after year one, the car needed extensive repair that almost cost as much as what I paid for it.
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My golden rule for buying used cars in CH : Buy only if seller agrees to get the MFK cleared before sale.

Takes care of most worries.
Question: I was used to the "MFK" in my country to also provide a list of things that are still within legal limits but are expected to demand attention within some time like "Disc brakes expected to last about 5.000KM" Not saying this list was perfect but it gave an idea of things that would be upcoming costs. Does a MFK also provide such or is it only looking at the moment of test without any indication about the short term future?

(Never done an MFK here)
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