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Tax evasion or not?

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There is a small store nearby where sellers refuse to accept a payment card if a purchase costs less than 10 CHF. When a payment is done in cash, a receipt is printed only if a customer explicitly asks for it.
Does this look like a possible tax evasion to you or not?
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Old 16.07.2018, 11:09
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Re: Tax evasion or not?

Each card transaction costs a fee. If it's a small business the cost doesn't make the transaction worth it, hence the minimum fee.

It's not uncommon for small businesses to state this minimum.
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Old 16.07.2018, 11:50
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When a payment is done in cash, a receipt is printed only if a customer explicitly asks for it.
Does this look like a possible tax evasion to you or not?
No, it looks more like ecologically responsible people who don't want to wast time and money and paper printing out receipts that people are just going to toss.

I wish more stores would do that.

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Old 16.07.2018, 12:08
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No, it looks more like ecologically responsible people who don't want to wast time and money and paper printing out receipts that people are just going to toss.

I wish more stores would do that.

Tom
Even my local COOP ask me if i want the receipt.. It's totally common around these parts to not get a receipt. I don't think they are all tax dodging.
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Even my local COOP ask me if i want the receipt.. It's totally common around these parts to not get a receipt. I don't think they are all tax dodging.
But they first print it, then ask
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But they first print it, then ask
In some newsagents and petrol stations it is now printed only on request or is only automatically if it's a card payment.

If you don't want a receipt in Coop and have a Supercard you can set it up in your profile so that a receipt is not printed for your purchases and/or a digital copy comes via email.
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Old 02.08.2018, 09:37
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In some newsagents and petrol stations it is now printed only on request or is only automatically if it's a card payment.
Even with a card payment the printing is not automatically everywhere.
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Old 16.07.2018, 12:27
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Hi!
There is a small store nearby where sellers refuse to accept a payment card if a purchase costs less than 10 CHF. When a payment is done in cash, a receipt is printed only if a customer explicitly asks for it.
Does this look like a possible tax evasion to you or not?
Only if you're, say, from Malta where a shop is obliged by law to give a receipt. And discounts for cash is the national pastime.

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...which must include VAT.

You have to be given a receipt every time you buy something.
Some shops will stop serving when there are power cuts because they can't issue receipts, to avoid any comeback.

Here in the first world, we don't really have the problem
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Old 16.07.2018, 12:39
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Only if you're, say, from Malta where a shop is obliged by law to give a receipt. And discounts for cash is the national pastime.
Likewise in Italy.

And you have to be a certain distance from the bar or shop before you toss the receipt, otherwise YOU can be fined!

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Likewise in Italy.

And you have to be a certain distance from the bar or shop before you toss the receipt, otherwise YOU can be fined!

Tom
I think this changed a long time ago. The customer can no longer be prosecuted, but the shop may well be in trouble if they are caught or it is reported.
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Re: Tax evasion or not?

I recall that some country (Italy ??) implemented a lottery based on VAT receipts. Everyone loved a free lotto and everyone asked for receipts.

It may be an urban legend though ...
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Old 16.07.2018, 13:21
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I recall that some country (Italy ??) implemented a lottery based on VAT receipts. Everyone loved a free lotto and everyone asked for receipts.

It may be an urban legend though ...
Malta has a VAT lottery. However not having to pay the extra 18% would be a better deal from an investor's POV
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Hi!
There is a small store nearby where sellers refuse to accept a payment card if a purchase costs less than 10 CHF. When a payment is done in cash, a receipt is printed only if a customer explicitly asks for it.
Does this look like a possible tax evasion to you or not?
Dont be a jerk and try and report them or something so busybody like, you'll just look silly, and not be welcome back in the shop. If it irks you to pay cash on a pack of chewing gum or litre of milk, go to another store.

Also if its rung into the till, there is a copy of the receipt in there that is used by the shop for tax purposes. Who wants a reciept for a dozen eggs and a top shelf magazine?
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Old 16.07.2018, 13:14
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Re: Tax evasion or not?

The matter is that when the payment is done with a card, a customer is usually asked if she needs a payment receipt or is given a receipt without asking. When the payment is done in cash, a customer is not asked about the receipt.
This kind of thing is very common in my own country, where tax evasion is a big problem. The government even organized a campaign calling on people to require the payment receipts in stores.
I had to ask.
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Old 16.07.2018, 13:34
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. . .
This kind of thing is very common in my own country, where tax evasion is a big problem. . . .
The issue of receipts concerns not only tax evasion but theft by employees.
It hasn't happened to to me very often here, but I have on occasion been presented with an incomplete receipt in a restaurant only for the waiter to 'suddenly remember' that an item is missing and amend it by hand. Of course, it could be a genuine mistake ...
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The issue of receipts concerns not only tax evasion but theft by employees.
It hasn't happened to to me very often here, but I have on occasion been presented with an incomplete receipt in a restaurant only for the waiter to 'suddenly remember' that an item is missing and amend it by hand. Of course, it could be a genuine mistake ...
Whereas at a certain citrus-themed cafe at Zurich Stadelhofen, it isn't unknown for the waiting staff to add an item or two to the bill. Good to see waiters with a social conscience!
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Whereas at a certain citrus-themed cafe at Zurich Stadelhofen, it isn't unknown for the waiting staff to add an item or two to the bill. Good to see waiters with a social conscience!
Did you know they are closing? Man, we used to have our Latin lessons in there, after our teacher figured out that we would skive off in there rather than being bolloxed for being late on Saturday mornings (lessons started at 7.30 and many people came in with the train, so if you missed the earlier train, you just waited until the next lesson and fabricated some excuse for missing the lesson), he started showing up there with the rest of the class that had made it to the classroom.
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This kind of thing is very common in my own country, where tax evasion is a big problem.
Italy?

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Hi!
There is a small store nearby where sellers refuse to accept a payment card if a purchase costs less than 10 CHF. When a payment is done in cash, a receipt is printed only if a customer explicitly asks for it.
Does this look like a possible tax evasion to you or not?
With the exception of cash, everybody is free in deciding what means of payment they accept.

It doesn't matter if a receipt gets printed or not, what does matter is that your purchase is booked. If printing the receipt is a matter of pushing one or two buttons your purchase is booked whether you want a receipt or not.
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With the exception of cash, everybody is free in deciding what means of payment they accept.

It doesn't matter if a receipt gets printed or not, what does matter is that your purchase is booked. If printing the receipt is a matter of pushing one or two buttons your purchase is booked whether you want a receipt or not.
Thank you.
So,
1) Is it true that if the receipt is printed, then the purchase is definitely booked?
2) How can I be sure that the purchase is booked if I pay in cash and the receipt is not printed?
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