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Scam stories

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To start the week as nicely as the last one ended with the crap thread
What are your scam stories (well the ones you are not too ashamed to post on a public forum at least), where you got scammed, or where you scammed someone, of course, if you want to tell us about that?


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A white-haired posh-sounding British guy once asked me for 10 CHF at Zurich HB, said he had lost his wallet, asked for my phone number and said he'd give the money back the next day. Yeah, I believed him


Saw an ad for a second hand rice cooker a few years ago, for 20 CHF, near Zurich. A Hungarian girl (well, she was speaking Hungarian, and had a Hungarian whatsapp number) told me the address, so I went there. She came out of the building, silly me gave her the 20 CHF and she said she'd just fetch the rice cooker from her flat and she'd be right back. Silly silly me thought that if I went up to the flat with her that would be a bit threatening, so I waited outside... and waited... and waited Yup, that building had a second entrance, on the other side, and she probably didn't even live there.


And some bank, not going to name them here as they are ok as a company, once invited me for a discussion about preparing for retirement etc. The guy seemed nice, said he would ask a (what later turned out to be life insurance) company about whether they would accept me or not, and if I signed on this little bit of paper he could send the request online right there (yeah, I should have read the 20 or so pages of small print, but he assured me twice that there was no risk, it was just a request to see if they would accept me for their retirement preparation, etc). Got a letter a few days later with a shiny new contract and that they would take a few hundred CHF straight from my account every month. Called the guy, he said oh, but you know, they have already taken the money from your account for the first month, nothing to be done now anymore. Had to send registered letters to both the guy at the bank and the insurance company (who of course had done nothing wrong) to cancel everything. It was all done lawfully, so not sure if it counts as a scam, but it definitely felt like one. The bank did send me a letter a few weeks later that the guy had decided to find another job.


Aand one where I met a girl for coffee, for language exchange. No proof she was really in on it but in hindsight: She sat down at a table where I had my back to the room, and we were talking, writing stuff down. Every time a tram passed it felt like the whole chair was shaking, but I thought nothing of it. Turns out a guy was sitting behind me and actually shaking the chair every time so I wouldn't notice that he was taking my wallet out of its pocket then she asked - hey, did that guy just take your wallet? (how did she know?) of course he was out of the coffee shop and had disappeared by the time I got to the door, and no idea what he looked like. didn't lose much money there but it was a PITA to cancel all the cards, ID, etc.
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Old 30.07.2018, 13:26
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Nobody?
Alternatively, which scams did you heroically escape from?
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Old 30.07.2018, 13:32
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Alternatively, which scams did you heroically escape from?
Does the Billag man count?
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Old 30.07.2018, 13:37
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Re: Scam stories

I once almost fell for the cheap camera trick where they show you the camera and then sell you a bottle of water in a camera bag. A friend was with me and insisted they open the camera case before handing over money. The guys just said no, shrugged then walked away from us. Lesson learnt for cheap, could have set me back a few hundred.
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Re: Scam stories

Just walking into a bank or an insurance company can make you the victim of a highly sophisticated scam. If your victim status is ever recognized by a court (unlikely in this country), it will never be called a scam, not even a deception, . They will call it an isolated mistake/dysfunction. The best scams are rarely exposed as such.
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Old 03.08.2018, 20:43
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I got married... nuff said.

Not sure who got scammed but she complains that she’s been scammed every day!
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Old 03.08.2018, 22:05
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Re: Scam stories

There's this traffic scam. They put the light on yellow "hurry, hurry, it will be red any moment", then flash you for speeding.
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Old 03.08.2018, 22:21
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Re: Scam stories

This chick told me that her father was a famous Swiss artist, total bullshit as far as I could see, as he had a weird surname.

Unfortunately, it was true, and 12 years later we are still together, 7 married!

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Re: Scam stories

this also looks like a scam


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Re: Scam stories

We were on holiday in Africa and staying in quite a nice Hotel. We were advised not to buy anything from anywhere other than the Hotel shop as there were scams everywhere.

We wanted to buy a carving of the Masai tribe. It's quite a big piece and was actually relatively expensive (low hundreds). The Hotel Manager told us that carvings sold outside the hotel would be made from balsa wood (or some other light wood) which had been soaked in water for three months to make it feel as heavy as a solid piece. He advised that once we got it home the wood would then dry out and become light in both weight and colour. He advised we pay the extra hundred or so to buy the carving from his shop as the carvings on sale were solid wood. We paid the extra and felt grateful that we had avoided the scam.

Three months later our solid ebony carving started to become lighter and lighter and is now an intricately carved piece of firewood! To be honest we quite admired the scam. After all we were warned. We have kept the carving as a nice reminder of how easily a fool is parted from his money!
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Re: Scam stories

Old friend of mine put his broken vcr in a garbage bag and offered it to some construction workers on a building site, they thought they got a nice cheap stolen vcr while they actually bought his broken trash

Only scam I once fell for was ordering a 2nd handed gameconsole which never arrived, and when in Brasil I already knew my $5,- Rolex wasn't real.
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Re: Scam stories

Only a little scam, but one worth sharing. A Swiss lady, about 40 years old, just came to my cheese shop and asked me if I spoke German. Yes, enough to talk about cheese I replied. She explained that she bought some blue cheese from me last week and it tasted sour. As soon as she said this I remembered her. Her hair was done differently but it was definitely her - the same woman who has complained about the same problem 3 or 4 times (with me, possibly more times with my staff) over the last few years. The other times I apologised and gave her a replacement piece of cheese. But after the last time I realised that I had no recollection of ever selling her any cheese and that probably this was a scam.

So this time I was prepared. I asked her which cheese was it, she pointed out Shropshire Blue and I explained that Shropshire Blue (as in most blue cheeses) does taste a bit sour. She said the one she bought last week was very sour. So i opened up a piece of the same cheese, explained that this one Shropshire is the only one I have had over the last 2 weeks, I tasted it and let her taste it and we both agreed it was a little bit sour as it should be, but she stuck to her story that the one she bought last week was very sour and inedible. (this was when I knew I had her).

I asked her if she was sure it was last week. Absolutely she said, Tuesday or Wednesday. Well I'm sorry madam but you didn't buy any cheese from me last week. No, she said it was a woman she bought it from here. No, you didn't buy any cheese from my shop last week. Because last week my shop was closed for rebuilding. All week. And I smiled at her, and I could see she realised that I had rumbled her and she wandered off. I know now I should have taken a photo of her to warn my staff and other shops in the Markthalle. I'm sure she would have kicked up a fuss and would threaten to call the police which of course I would be very happy for her to do.

Next year I will be doubly prepared for her!
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Re: Scam stories

Last year my youngest daughter proudly showed me how she had found a promotion for the Fjallraven rucksack at 49 Eur instead of normal price 89 eur. It looked like I was buying on the official Fjallraven website and the site has a certificate and all; however it wasn't the company website; it was a perfect copy with a slightly different url. To put a long story short, my credit card provider stopped the payment and called me to ask me if I was in China. It was a lucky escape.

I also remember a holiday in Jordan where we visited a site with ruins of a Roman temple. The official guide followed us and whispered he gave us the unique opportunity to buy a few Roman coins he had found on the site. It was a bargain. He explained how you could spot real ones from fake. I politely declined the offer.
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Old 09.08.2019, 11:56
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I also remember a holiday in Jordan where we visited a site with ruins of a Roman temple. The official guide followed us and whispered he gave us the unique opportunity to buy a few Roman coins he had found on the site. It was a bargain. He explained how you could spot real ones from fake. I politely declined the offer.
Although the concept of roman coins sounds like something rare and valuable, actually it isn't. Roman coins are valuable if they're silver or gold or extremely well preserved or extremely rare mintings. But people are digging up damaged, oxidised and badly eroded low-denomination coins all the time. You can get them for pennies at numismatic shops. There's even a guy on the Bürkliplatz flea market who has a tupperware container of the things that you can rummage in.
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Re: Scam stories

The original post concerning the guy asking to borrow Fr 10 for a train ticket near HB has happened to me twice. Once by a younger English speaking asian guy who told me his girlfriend had taken the car back to Basel without him with his wallet inside.

He asked to borrow Fr 20 and gave me a business card to "prove" he was a legit. I told him that he could tell the same story to the controller in the train and he would issue a ticket for a small additional fee, so he just spun around and walked off. Similar story with an older German guy.

Seems to be a common scam in ZH.
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Old 09.08.2019, 14:47
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General rule: only lend money you are fine to lose as you may indeed never see it again.

I'm suspicious by nature, so have not many such stories. The only time I got scammed - and majorly - was when I rented a place via Craigslist that didn't actually exist. I had a funny feeling from the get-go, but ran it by three (!) friends and they all told me I was just being paranoid. Turns out I wasn't (always trust your gut!!) and I lost quite a bit of money. It happened in the US and there was a webpage where you could alert to internet scam that I think went to the FBI or something - so I did that, of course never expecting anything would come out of it, but figured it can't hurt either. Some four years later, the money wiring company that had enabled payments to such shady internet endeavors was sued for more than half a billion US$ and I, unexpectedly, received a letter that I could file a claim to get my money back. They said it would take another couple of years for them to settle all claims though; that was about a year ago. Let's see if I ever get any of it back.

Beyond that it's the occasional order on Amazon that turns out to be cheap crap from China that I usually throw a way the day it arrives. But that's not necessarily a scam in that sense and almost always due to my own naivete and stupidity to ignore the fine print or exact "shipping from" location. I make it a rule now to not buy stuff that can't possibly be of decent quality - if the price is too low, then it all usually is indeed too good to be true.
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I get quite a lot of messages on linkedin from a few "consulting firms" that want me to speak about my experience with an old employer in return for payment. i've never really figured it out, but since they seem really keen to move forward, and i have been contacted me many times, I don't trust it at all.

Here is a sample message (with company name removed) .... anyone have any idea what their angle is?

Hi KRLOCK3
I hope this email finds you well. My name is David ***** and I work for a primary research firm called Guidepoint that is based in New York City and sources expert advisors for the investment community. Currently, I have a client, an institutional investor, who is looking to speak with contacts who have experience with XXXXXX.

I came across your profile and wanted to reach out to see if you may be interested in joining our advisor network. Given your expertise, I feel that you would be a great fit for this consultation. Phone consultations are our most popular service and typically last 1 hour, for which we would compensate you for your time at an hourly rate of your choosing. As a matter of policy, you would never be asked to discuss any private or confidential information, nor anything relating to your current company. I will provide a few pre-screening questions beforehand, so you can better gauge the topic of conversation.

This project is time sensitive, as my client hopes to go on a call at your earliest convenience. If you are interested in this opportunity, please message me back and I can send you the link to become an advisor in our network and sign-up for this specific phone consultation.
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Only a little scam, but one worth sharing. A Swiss lady, about 40 years old, just came to my cheese shop and asked me if I spoke German. Yes, enough to talk about cheese I replied. She explained that she bought some blue cheese from me last week and it tasted sour. As soon as she said this I remembered her. Her hair was done differently but it was definitely her - the same woman who has complained about the same problem 3 or 4 times (with me, possibly more times with my staff) over the last few years. The other times I apologised and gave her a replacement piece of cheese. But after the last time I realised that I had no recollection of ever selling her any cheese and that probably this was a scam.

So this time I was prepared. I asked her which cheese was it, she pointed out Shropshire Blue and I explained that Shropshire Blue (as in most blue cheeses) does taste a bit sour. She said the one she bought last week was very sour. So i opened up a piece of the same cheese, explained that this one Shropshire is the only one I have had over the last 2 weeks, I tasted it and let her taste it and we both agreed it was a little bit sour as it should be, but she stuck to her story that the one she bought last week was very sour and inedible. (this was when I knew I had her).

I asked her if she was sure it was last week. Absolutely she said, Tuesday or Wednesday. Well I'm sorry madam but you didn't buy any cheese from me last week. No, she said it was a woman she bought it from here. No, you didn't buy any cheese from my shop last week. Because last week my shop was closed for rebuilding. All week. And I smiled at her, and I could see she realised that I had rumbled her and she wandered off. I know now I should have taken a photo of her to warn my staff and other shops in the Markthalle. I'm sure she would have kicked up a fuss and would threaten to call the police which of course I would be very happy for her to do.

Next year I will be doubly prepared for her!
Does the Markthalle have security cams? Maybe you could ask to see the footage. If she's scammed you, she's probably scammed others too.
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Old 09.08.2019, 18:16
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At present nearly every product advertised on Facebook seems a scam. And I‘ve fallen for a few...
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In the very early days of Slammer´s weird and wonderful and indeed rocky journey through life I was traveling from Augsburg to Hamburg to join my ship.
I was so fugging green in them far gone days that I needed to mow my ass more often than I needed a shave.
Dead knackerd after a long and grueling train ride in one of those old and creaky "Silberlinge" you know the ones... the bog was a hole in the floor, not a place to lose a contact lens if you know what I mean.
Anyway I was ransacked and had to wait for four hours for my ship to arrive on Landungsbrücke.
So young Slammer toddled off for some refreshing liquid pick-me-up.

...On the Reeperbahn...!

I ducked into a dimly lit and if I may; "seedy bar" and ordered a beer, Astra, what else and another Astra, and one more.
Remember, I was tired as fugg and just out from a 450 Einwohner, one horse village in the fuzzy bits of Swabian Congo.
So, so very, very green.
Anyway a Reeperbahn chick had at one point slid up to me and evidently asked for a drink, one that I may have aknowleged with a negative but which had been taken as a positive.
She slinked off and I was left to fall asleep in my beer. All too soon though it was time to get cracking to the Landungsbrücke, I asked to pay and got a bill for 550 Marks!
That got me sober and woke in a heartbeat.
A bloody fortune in them days. at least I had some checks with me and coughed up the lettuce under the intense scrutiny of a brace of knuckle draggers.
My next stop was a telephone box (remember them?) to ring the bank and have them damn checks cancelled thinking it would be at least six months before I returned to Hamburg and the chance that I would get to keep my kneecaps was good.


Buuuuut, seems these guys were faster and had cashed them in before I was able to call.
Bugger.
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