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A conversation overheard

I was on the bus from the airport and standing next to two other Brits (both from London) who were working or living in Switzerland and discussing the pros and cons of living in Switzerland. One of them said that Switzerland was better than London for kids up until the age of 11, I didn't catch what he said after that and I've been wondering ever since. Any ideas why he said that?
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I was on the bus from the airport and standing next to two other Brits (both from London) who were working or living in Switzerland and discussing the pros and cons of living in Switzerland. One of them said that Switzerland was better than London for kids up until the age of 11, I didn't catch what he said after that and I've been wondering ever since. Any ideas why he said that?
Being successful & Common Sense are not allowed or encouraged in CH, just following of rules, fitting in & being mediocre at everything. I certainly would not what any child of mine to be 'Swisified' past age 11.
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Being successful & Common Sense are not allowed or encouraged in CH, just following of rules, fitting in & being mediocre at everything. I certainly would not what any child of mine to be 'Swisified' past age 11.
A Swiss neighbour of mine is fearful of that too. He has sent his children abroad for a year (to more than one country) so they learn that there's more than one way of looking at things.

He says it's the best decision he ever made for his children.
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I guess some people have higher aspirations than being a school teacher in the U.K.
I am reminded of Woody Allen's quote from Manhattan "If you can't do you teach, if you can't teach you teach P.E."
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A Swiss neighbour of mine is fearful of that too. He has sent his children abroad for a year (to more than one country) so they learn that there's more than one way of looking at things.

He says it's the best decision he ever made for his children.
Why? I've always ensured that my child (now studying her masters in a major that would be in-affordable in many other countries) was able to achieve a future that is open to her. Regardless of the depth of the parents pockets, and without her signing-up to a life-time debt.

The Universities in Switzerland rank highly Worldwide.

I would would only add that it is those parents who don't provide the guidance to enable the child to experience other cultures e.g. a gap year, and travelling / international experience wherever possible (perhaps even self /partly funded by the the student through work-experience), that don't encourage self-development.
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I guess some people have higher aspirations than being a school teacher in the U.K.
I am reminded of Woody Allen's quote from Manhattan "If you can't do you teach, if you can't teach you teach P.E."
And if you can't teach P.E., Film school?

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I guess some people have higher aspirations than being a school teacher in the U.K.
I am reminded of Woody Allen's quote from Manhattan "If you can't do you teach, if you can't teach you teach P.E."
Ah yes - but I never taught PE- I taught mod langs, and I can speak and write them very well. But yes, in our family, I am the only teacher - most are doctors, lawyers, architects, top business people, partners in large firms and CEO's of massive companies- and have never been dependent on RAV - for sure

You are so funny and predictable dear.

You can travel, supplement your kids' education with all sorts of activities that will bring all sorts of wonderful things into your kids experience - be it in CH or in UK- anywhere indeed. I regularly visit our local school- the teaching is amazing.

BTW does your quote apply to teaching in Switzerland, or in UK? Because that is the question here, not teaching per se.
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And if you can't teach P.E., Film school?
Probably, never went to film school so can't comment, too busy working in the industry from age 16.
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Ah yes - but I never taught PE- I taught mod langs, and I can speak and write them very well. But yes, in our family, I am the only teacher - most are doctors, lawyers, architects, top business people, partners in large firms and CEO's of massive companies- and have never been dependent on RAV - for sure

You are so funny and predictable dear.

You can travel, supplement your kids' education with all sorts of activities that will bring all sorts of wonderful things into your kids experience - be it in CH or in UK- anywhere indeed. I regularly visit our local school- the teaching is amazing.

BTW does your quote apply to teaching in Switzerland, or in UK? Because that is the question here, not teaching per se.
I think more just about the sort of people who go into teaching & stay there. They like the long holidays & complain they work really hard

You have an amusing attitude to the RAV which is insurance I paid for & had no choice of paying, whilst your entire career was paid for by the UK tax payer.
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Why? I've always ensured that my child (now studying her masters in a major that would be in-affordable in many other countries) was able to achieve a future that is open to her. Regardless of the depth of the parents pockets, and without her signing-up to a life-time debt.

The Universities in Switzerland rank highly Worldwide.
I never said they weren't.

I just said a neighbour sent his children abroad for a year to broaden their horizons.
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Another new account posting something that is very likely to attract discussion about Switzerland..

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Maybe they're into acid attacks, thieves on mopeds carrying machetes and stabbings? London wins hands down.
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I never said they weren't.

I just said a neighbour sent his children abroad for a year to broaden their horizons.
It's amusing how uncomfortable people get when a Swiss person is able to look at Switzerland objectively, it does not happen very often which is root of the problem.
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A Swiss neighbour of mine is fearful of that too. He has sent his children abroad for a year (to more than one country) so they learn that there's more than one way of looking at things.

He says it's the best decision he ever made for his children.
Indeed.

And mine, who after 4 1/2 years in the US, decided that CH was better as the US was BS.

Go figure.

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I was on the bus from the airport and standing next to two other Brits (both from London) who were working or living in Switzerland and discussing the pros and cons of living in Switzerland. One of them said that Switzerland was better than London for kids up until the age of 11, I didn't catch what he said after that and I've been wondering ever since. Any ideas why he said that?



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I guess some people have higher aspirations than being a school teacher in the U.K.
I am reminded of Woody Allen's quote from Manhattan "If you can't do you teach, if you can't teach you teach P.E."
You guys ... duel... handbags at dawn.... Odile, if you want a tip, whack him in the back with yours, he is probably still sore

Not that I am a teacher, or ever have been... but it is a valuable profession.
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Ah lol - not worth my energy- and he is soooo predictable, it is hilarious.

I don't think his teachers were ever paid by the State btw- somehow.

I went into it late - and lasted just 14 years ... could have gone into private teaching, but I prefer real kids, lumps, warts and bumps - to spoilt brats - CQFD.

then started my own business, and it paid much much better for 1/3 of the time. Only started aged 32, car accident, kids, OH's profession came first.

I wonder how FMF would have got on doing a Hons Degree in French or German btw, lol.
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I wonder how FMF would have got on doing a Hons Degree in French or German btw, lol.
I would haver had no interest in doing any degree whatsoever, amazed you did not bother to do a phd if education is so important to you.

Surely an Hons Degree in the UK is just a BA where you got a 2:2 or better.

First time you ever mentioned this business where you earned so much.
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Another new account posting something that is very likely to attract discussion about Switzerland..

I was about to add a serious comment until I noticed it was the first post of a newbie aka quite likely a (returning) troll. So nope, not worth the energy and effort....
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