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What's a "frenetic shopper"?

The closest I can come up with are those people camped outside department stores in the US the night before Black Friday.

You don't really see that anywhere else, although perhaps that shopping culture is creeping into Europe.

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Old 29.09.2018, 11:41
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I can define "frenetic" just wondered how that applied to shoppers and how you arrive at the conclusion.

When I'm shopping (which I hate) I tend to move without too much shilly-shallying about between shops because I just want to grab whatever I came in for and get out of there. Is that then "frenetic shopping" and, if so, how is that different to anywhere else in the world?
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Old 29.09.2018, 11:45
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I can define "frenetic" just wondered how that applied to shoppers and how you arrive at the conclusion.

When I'm shopping (which I hate) I tend to move without too much shilly-shallying about between shops because I just want to grab whatever I came in for and get out of there. Is that then "frenetic shopping" and, if so, how is that different to anywhere else in the world?
I refer maybe to Bahnhofstrasse Zurich on a Saturday morning-its an army moving down the street.
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I refer maybe to Bahnhofstrasse Zurich on a Saturday morning-its an army moving down the street.
Ah, so top tourist destination, then? If you work in the banking district then you KNOW beyond a shadow of a doubt to avoid, avoid, avoid Bahnhofstrasse on a Saturday morning.

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Old 29.09.2018, 11:48
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For most Zürich people everything revolves around shopping.....shopping..... and more shopping until collapse!
True of any city.

Otherwise what's the point of a city?

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Its not hate. To look at these frenetic shoppers is a bit sad. Its like an addiction.
It's a main street of the largest city in the country... on a Saturday... what do you expect if not tons of shoppers from both Zurich, the surrounding areas, as well as tourists, out on the only day they really get to shop?

The UK and Australia are FAR more consumer-based, not to mention obese and lazy, than Switzerland. Same goes for much of the rest of the world.

Surely at some point the sheer amount of utterly dumb shite you write must start to get embarrassing?
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Re: Are you happy living in Zurich?

I was born in Switzerland but lived in England almost my whole life. My parents moved back to Switzerland when I was 11 but I quickly decided I wanted to go to a boarding school in England because I absolutely hated it in Switzerland. When I learnt that after school I had to go back to Switzerland to do my national service I was absolutely dreading it because I already knew how Switzerland was and how I felt like such a foreigner here (ironic since I'm actually Swiss). I've lived in Zurich for 4 months now and I have to say it has been by far the most difficult summer of my life. My time in the Army I would cry almost every day (I'm not a person who cries very often either), not because it was the Army, but because I didn't feel like I belonged anywhere when I was there (Payerne). About 2 months ago I switched to do civil service, and although I'm not happy here, I'm feeling a bit better. I have lost hope that I will ever be happy as long as I'm in Switzerland, but I know this is only for a year and that I just have to pull through. I'm not trying to bash Switzerland, it's just that life and the people here are so different than to England. I'm grateful that I'm in Zurich and not in any other place in Switzerland, its a city where there are plenty of English people, but it's just not the same.
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The UK and Australia are FAR more consumer-based, not to mention obese and lazy, than Switzerland. Same goes for much of the rest of the world.

Surely at some point the sheer amount of utterly dumb shite you write must start to get embarrassing?
Because you've personally met every Brit and Australian, yes? Making this fact rather than a sweeping opinion? We know you think CH, its inhabitants, and by extension yourself for making such a good geographical decision, vastly superior, but am I the only one to see the irony in your last sentence?
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Old 29.09.2018, 12:26
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Its a " bankers" city . And bankers are a painfully boring bunch of gowners.......
I'm actually quiet relieved that my banker is dressed when ever we meet.
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Because you've personally met every Brit and Australian, yes? Making this fact rather than a sweeping opinion? We know you think CH, its inhabitants, and by extension yourself for making such a good geographical decision, vastly superior, but am I the only one to see the irony in your last sentence?
I am talking about the societies as a whole, why would I need to meet every native of the countries to form a generalised opinion based on reported on (since a long time) facts? I thought you were supposed to be intelligent, a teacher or something? Surprising considering the lack of sense and logic you repeatedly show in your posts.

UK obesity https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...ll-obese-2045/

Australia obesity https://www.smh.com.au/national/aust...19-p4zmgt.html

All common and well publicized knowledge... well, except for you maybe. You can google the consumerism stuff too.
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I am talking about the societies as a whole, why would I need to meet every native of the countries to form a generalised opinion? I thought you were supposed to be intelligent, a teacher or something? Surprising considering the lack of sense and logic you show in your posts.
But you present it as fact. That's the issue. And I found it insulting. Then you resort to more personalised insults when your opinion is disagreed with. I am a teacher, it's one of my many facets, so that little swipe isn't fit to lick the boots of the best insults I've received in my career. I'm many other things too. Hold up a mirror, once in a while, eh?

You keep using these words "sense" and "logic". I do not think they mean what you think they mean.

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But you present it as fact. That's the issue. And I found it insulting. Then you resort to more personalised insults when your opinion is disagreed with. I am a teacher, it's one of my many facets, so that little swipe isn't fit to lick the boots of the best insults I've received in my career. I'm many other things too. Hold up a mirror, once in a while, eh?

You keep using these words "sense" and "logic". I do not think they mean what you think they mean.
It is a fact that the UK and Australia are significantly more obese (thus more sedentiary) and have more consumerist societies than CH. Find me one single piece of evidence that disproves it?

It is simply common knowledge, even without the gazillion pieces of statistical evidence you can google to support it.
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it is a fact that the uk and australia are significantly more obese (thus more sedentiary) and have more consumerist societies than ch. Find me one single piece of evidence that disproves it?

It is simply common knowledge, even without the gazillion pieces of statistical evidence you can google to support it.
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Omtatsat complains about people shopping. Richdog goes off on one about obesity, then decides to lecture us about "logic and sense".

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It is a fact that the UK and Australia are significantly more obese (thus more sedentiary) and have more consumerist societies than CH. Find me one single piece of evidence that disproves it?

It is simply common knowledge, even without the gazillion pieces of statistical evidence you can google to support it.
There are something like 66 million people in the UK, 24 million in Oz, 8.5 million in CH. Google is indeed a wondrous thing. I even found out that while the UK is bigger than CH, Australia is simply massive

Scale up your Swiss stats accordingly. Look at all the very high end brands available. The prestige cars etc. The prevalence of obvious branding on must-have products. I think CH is pretty consumerist. It's just on a far smaller scale because there is a far smaller population. It's statistical apples and oranges unless you make your samples the same size to begin with. There is less choice in CH, admittedly. I wonder if there's a correlaton between this and all Amazon/ cross-border shopping threads on EF... hmm...

Laziness is subjective and pejorative. Obesity I suppose can be " counted " but again, are just stats. Folk in the UK probably tend to drive more... cos, you, know, bigger. Ditto OZ.

I don't need to disprove anything. Stats can support anything. It is your persistent opinion-as-fact without thinking about what you're saying that I find amusing. And the personal swipes are tiring. Opinion, in case you were wondering.
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Omtatsat complains about people shopping. Richdog goes off on one about obesity, then decides to lecture us about "logic and sense".

EF on a lazy Saturday morning. I loves it!
Seeing as it's lazy Saturday.. how about a reminder from Inigo Montoya?

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It's a main street of the largest city in the country... on a Saturday... what do you expect if not tons of shoppers from both Zurich, the surrounding areas, as well as tourists, out on the only day they really get to shop?

The UK and Australia are FAR more consumer-based, not to mention obese and lazy, than Switzerland. Same goes for much of the rest of the world.

Surely at some point the sheer amount of utterly dumb shite you write must start to get embarrassing?
My face is glowing like a beetroot.!
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I'm actually quiet relieved that my banker is dressed when ever we meet.
Well I have never heard of an FKK Bank. Maybe you are better informed on that?
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It is a fact that the UK and Australia are significantly more obese (thus more sedentiary) and have more consumerist societies than CH. Find me one single piece of evidence that disproves it?

It is simply common knowledge, even without the gazillion pieces of statistical evidence you can google to support it.
Its simply that they eat so much junk food in UK and Australia. And naturally in USA.
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